'that have divided working families' Huh? They are all for everything that makes it easier for the family to illegally reside here and against anything which deters it and then they complain about too many deportations or divided families. Actually, it simply sounds like they think these families have a divine right to be here and have they ever considered that if every form of deterrence were not opposed, watered down, sued over, etc. there would a whole heck of a lot less people who would be subject to deportation? Wouldn't they love it if hardly any egregious violators of hiring law existed in the first place? So that when there's an inspection hardly any of these people get detained, divided, deported? For the most part, no. Because that would mean some of the people who aren't supposed to be here but they indiscriminately want here wouldn't be here. Thus, in bad faith, they don't want a limited immigration policy to work. That's why it's funny when they claim 'the system is broken'--if 'the system' has to be limited, they want it keep it broken and leaky in the extreme. Their 'unbroken' system means a policy of virtually unlimited immigration. Problem solved.

Daily Kos's editorial stance on immigration not to mention the out of control comment section is now completely dominated by professional Open Borders advocates, Immigration Lawyers, the would be "Latte" upper class Left Libertarian intelligensia and assorted authoritarian New New Left Marxist and Anarchist loonies. It did not use to be that way before last summer. There were at one time a number of solid labor market realist, enforcement oriented Democrats posting regularly at Kos on Immigration matters like the H1-B, L1, H2-B, illegal workers and their downwards pressure on job security, employment, wages and benifits. No matter how intelligently written or researched their posting were, they rarely if ever garnered featured status. Markos and staff made little effort in allowing them to broaden or deepen the debate on immigration. Instead they were viciously attacked by the Open Borders advocates with the usual dimwitted "Racist" name calling. The comment sections were completely hijacked with inane remarks to the point of being worthless. Bob Oak over at Noslaves.org comes to mind, along with a bonified progressive activist and successful political campaign strategist like Dave Sirota as folks who got ran out of dodge for questioning the Open Borders agenda. And that apparently is the way Commandante Markos wants to keep it. I stopped visiting Daily Kos almost a year ago.

_I stopped visiting Daily Kos almost a year ago._ I have not been to the site in years. There are so many comments there that it is impossible to carry on any kind of dialogue. Even if you could change a few minds, which I found I couldn't. A lot of choir preaching. An echo chamber. Complete waste of time.