Obama snubs Fox to discuss domestic policy with foreign citizen (Jorge Ramos, Univision)
On Sunday 9/20/09, Barack Obama will be appearing on five (5) Sunday talk shows to promote Obama healthcare. One stop he won't be making is at Fox News; Chris Wallace isn't too happy about being snubbed [1] and neither are various GOP leaders [2].
Instead of reaching out to Fox's viewers and deflecting what would assuredly be lightweight questions, Obama will be appearing on Univision's "Al Punto with Jorge Ramos". Ramos is a Mexican citizen who has no interest in becoming a U.S. citizen; he says he might want to run for office in Mexico one day. Despite that, he has no qualms about interfering in our internal U.S. politics, supporting illegal immigration, and opposing assimilation (link, link).
And, at the CNN Democratic debate of February 21, 2008, he was allowed to ask questions of the presidential candidates and CNN did not reveal that he isn't even a citizen of the U.S. Don't expect Obama to do that either.
UPDATE: The Univision interview is at univision.com/content/content.jhtml?chid=3&schid=160&secid=20208&cid=2094409
As could have been expected, Obama said mostly the same thing he's been saying. He said (yet again) that illegal aliens won't be covered under Obama healthcare (without acknowledging the loopholes that would let them be covered and without explicitly mentioning his magical plan to simply legalize them first then give them healthcare). Asked about comprehensive immigration reform, he responded in the same basic way as George W Bush did, saying he was working on it and he's met with leaders but there's no specific timetable. He also referenced that Janet Napolitano was making changes to eliminate the "most negative practices we've seen" (note: from his English to Univision back to English).
And, Ramos - someone who represents Mexican and not U.S. interests - asked Obama why during his last big speech he'd used the phrase "illegal immigrants" rather than "undocumented immigrants" as he'd done during the campaign:
Yo estaba abordando la información errónea aportada por la otra parte que estaba tratando de… asustarnos. Yo esencialmente los estaba citando. Yo dije: "Para aquellos de ustedes que dicen que los inmigrantes ilegales van a tener cobertura bajo este plan, dije que eso no es cierto". Así que estoy usando esas palabras porque estaba yo dirigiéndome a la información errónea que ellos están proporcionando, yo estaba hablando directamente a un público, al pueblo estadounidense, quienes, debido a esta información errónea que le han brindado, en sí, creo que… estaban respondiendo …muy a menudo de una manera muy negativa.
Per Google:
I was addressing the misinformation provided by the other party ... I was trying to scare us. Yo esencialmente los estaba citando. Essentially I was quoting. I said: "For those of you who say that illegal immigrants will be covered under this plan, I said that's not true." So I'm using those words because I was speaking to the wrong information they are providing, I was talking directly to an audience, the American people who, because of this misinformation that you have provided, in itself, I think ... were responding ... very often in a very negative way.
[1] huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/19/snubbed-by-obama-fox-news_n_292254.html
[2] thehill.com/homenews/house/59141-gop-
lawmakers-criticize-obama-for-snubbing-fox-news
Comments
Steve (not verified)
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 05:15
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HS 19415 2009-09-20T07:15:02-05:00
Gee, I wonder what Ramos will ask about.
Leave it to Beaner (not verified)
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 05:47
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HS 19416 2009-09-20T07:47:01-05:00
lol steve. It's always heart warming to see one of our Presidents, (rino or socialist) go to great lengths to comfort foriegn nationals and to hear their concerns and to do his best to meet their demands....all the while completely snubbing and collectively saying to us citizens: Fuck you! Your concerns and demands are not legitimate and how dare you try and stop me. Only in America
Fred Dawes (not verified)
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 16:58
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HS 19417 dawes57@cox.net 2009-09-20T18:58:20-05:00
Well yes obama is also a foreign citizen its normal for people that have so much in common to talk and walk hand and hand like this two dick weeds. will i be put in a camp for writing that?
petty bourgeois (not verified)
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 22:01
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HS 19418 2009-09-22T00:01:40-05:00
Ramos is white with blue eyes. The irony is delicious. Of course they are illegal, not undocumented. They should be shown the door. Ramos must really hate his country to promote the mexidus.
Fred Dawes (not verified)
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 23:24
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HS 19419 dawes57@cox.net 2009-09-22T01:24:41-05:00
Ramos is hispanic and his ideals are not American.
katherine (not verified)
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 12:50
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HS 19420 2009-09-22T14:50:27-05:00
The reason why Ramos was given the opportunity to conduct the interview is because he has been working with Univision for years. He is their top anchor and was simply the most qualified. His views as a non-citizen Latino LIVING in the U.S reflect the views of other Latinos - i.e. Univisions target audience. Also, Obama was born in Hawaii, last I knew that makes you American.
petty bourgeois (not verified)
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 15:38
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HS 19421 2009-09-22T17:38:01-05:00
"Obama was born in Hawaii..." I believe that fact is still in contention. Obama is anything BUT an American. He throws a baseball like a girl, he worshipped the America-hating Rev. Wright for 20 years and studied the Quran in Indonesia. He is as much of an American as Trotsky was a mexican.
petty bourgeois (not verified)
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 15:40
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HS 19422 2009-09-22T17:40:08-05:00
And Ramos is the eptiome of mexico: a white ruling elite exploiting the mestizo underclass. He needs to be summarily deported to his beloved homeland as a hostile enemy, but he hates his country too much to live there.
Luis Saria (not verified)
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:47
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HS 19423 lsarria1@comcast.net 2009-09-22T19:47:12-05:00
Actually the translation from Google is wrong, he (Obama) said: "They were trying to scare us" "They" of course meaning those who oppose their health plan. Most of the comments here are true, Ramos is a person with psychological problems since he is white Hispanic and poor at the time he came to the US. He resent the fact being white in Mexico he should have been also rich but for some reason it did not happen. So he came to the US with $200 and an unbelievable hate for this country. He got a mentor on the biggest share holder of UVN and became rich. But one thing it never change is the natural antipathy for what this country represent since in his mind he is an aristocrat. In my mind he is just a sick person with learning problems
Fred Dawes (not verified)
Wed, 09/23/2009 - 15:06
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HS 19424 dawes57@cox.net 2009-09-23T17:06:23-05:00
The emeny at work.
Mike (not verified)
Thu, 09/24/2009 - 15:07
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HS 19425 2009-09-24T17:07:44-05:00
You guys are all retarded... To be Mexican does not require you to be brown you stupid ass. We have Americans of every color here. Are they not the same a white male. The conservative hatred to other unlike your selves is spewing out of your mouths again. The reason the president is not concerned to cater to the right-wing shit heads of America. They are to busy worrying about death panels and conspiracy theories, which makes them as difficult to talk to as kids with ADD. Jorge Ramos reaches lots of Americas, latinos, who are citizens of this great nation, and keep up with this nation's issues. Obama is smart to reach out to this men and women that contribute to this great nation everyday. Petty, you stupid bastard, being white in Mexico does not guarantee you wealth and power you retard, the same as this country. Carlos Slim Helú's fortune is up almost $20 billion in a year, built amid poverty and resentment in Mexico. Now he's gaining on Warren Buffett. Is he white? You become what you want to be, here and there. Leave it to beaner, you are a disgrace to your parents... Fred, go back to the trailer you stupid redneck.
Mike (not verified)
Thu, 09/24/2009 - 15:09
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HS 19426 2009-09-24T17:09:53-05:00
Oh, and Petty, when responding get passed my grammar errors. You just show your ignorance with those responses. thanks.
petty bourgeois (not verified)
Thu, 09/24/2009 - 16:45
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HS 19427 2009-09-24T18:45:05-05:00
"Jorge Ramos reaches lots of Americas, latinos, who are citizens of this great nation, and keep up with this nation's issues." I did not know there were more than one "Americas." If they are citizens, why don't they speak English? Answer: because they are not Americans, so go fuck yourself you anti-American dolt. They are NOT "latinos." They are mexican nationals hostile to this country, you fucking retard. "Now he's gaining on Warren Buffett. Is he white?" Actually he is lebanese, and under our own government's pentagonal racial scheme, middle eastern is the same as white. So yes, he is white. The fact you can't spell or form a coherent sentence is indicative of your intellectual bankruptcy once again Mike. I guess you support importing millions of uneducated mexicans so you can exploit them. Glad to see you support slavery "lite." You fucking racist piece of shit.
Mike (not verified)
Thu, 09/24/2009 - 17:23
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HS 19428 2009-09-24T19:23:08-05:00
Middle eastern is the sam as white? You really are a stupid bastard! Intellectual bankruptcy? How about this article for intellectual bankruptcy, the author captures the true meaning of such phrase. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_02/016998.php Go call all your lebanese friends and tell them the good news you piece of crap, they are now white!!!!! What about the rest of the middle eastern nations? If this is the case, why dont we go support their causes. White males have to stick together right? You are such an retard my friend. Oh, and speaking another language is considered un-American. What about all the Asian Americans that prefer to use their native language in the privacy of their own homes, we should ship them out as well right? Also our Jewish brothers and sisters that perform ceremonies in their native language? Such bastards. Instead of being an ignorant bitch, show your children the benefit of being bilingual you turd. That's if you have children, for our sake I hope you dont. Since when are Mexican nationals hostile to this country? Please elaborate you prick. See ya later prick.
petty bourgeois (not verified)
Thu, 09/24/2009 - 18:54
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HS 19429 2009-09-24T20:54:39-05:00
"Middle eastern is the sam as white?" Yes it is, as those people come from the caucasus mountains, just like you and me. I have never encountered someone as stupid as you Mike. You are the most ignorant, stupid person I have ever seen. When you immigrate to another country, you should learn the language, not the other way around dipshit. People speaking in native tongues are not Americans at all. But I see you like the tower of babel, because when people are unable to communicate in a common language, little stalinists like yourself can control them. Do you give a shit about your african-american countrymen and the unemployment they are experiencing? Hell no, you're a mexican lover and a traitor to your country. You support slavery "lite" to displace Americans, because you are racist, treasonous piece of shit who can't even spell. You must be a product of our wonderful public education system. The link you provided is not even relevant to the discussion--more evidence that you are so stupid you are unable to grasp a coherent thought in that muddled, fat head of yours, you cretinous fucktard. Go fuck yourself you America-hating piece of shit. Go to mexico if you love third world shitholes so much and hate your country and its people. I will gladly but you a one-way ticket, asshole.
Mike (not verified)
Fri, 09/25/2009 - 14:26
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HS 19430 2009-09-25T16:26:31-05:00
Look who canÂ’t spell you retard!!! "I will gladly but you a one-way ticket, asshole." That article was to show you the degrading minds of conservatives. They are falling left and right bud. It our turn to drive, so get in the back of the bus and play with your dolls. You are like the kid that didnÂ’t get picked for a team on the playground. You do the only thing you can, try to stop the game. But know one is stopping for you... We are in control. Feel free to call us names and go to your stupid rallies holding stupid signs. You will not stop shit prick. Welcome to the new era.
petty bourgeois (not verified)
Fri, 09/25/2009 - 16:40
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HS 19431 2009-09-25T18:40:24-05:00
"We are in control." Haha. You think with your ass. You are a stupid man with no purpose in life. You cannot even control your own mouth. I would venture to say you cannot even control your bladder. Take your little stalinist butt and go back to the USSR, you little piece of shit.