.@Glaivester: implied threats of violence seem to be the BuzzFeed way. I'll be contacting their management. @BuzzFeedAndrew #tcot #tgdn #sgp

.@VictorB123: I've placed tech gigs on CL. There's a lot of supply. Co's want #H1B because they're cheaper & more tractable. #immigration

@24AheadDotCom We advertise jobs for months. Maybe 10% of our applicants are US born.

@24AheadDotCom We don't take that many H1B anymore because we opened an office in Bangalore.

@24AheadDotCom We just hire them in India.

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Companies deliberately write ads so as to exclude Americans: http://t.co/ZjuWDvhIHF

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Companies pretend to advertise so they can claim they need H1Bs. http://t.co/QMPqzKcQfo http://t.co/yNYxCsuR9C

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Not saying you do, but some companies do this: http://t.co/yNYxCsuR9C

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom We have 8 jobs publicly posted right now on our website. 5 of them have been there since last year.

RT @Glaivester: .@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom "Won't do jobs at any wage." Nice way to avoid even trying higher wages as incentive.

.@VictorB123: while I've mentioned MX's unemployment %, that % might be as doctored as US %. There's also the issue of relative wages. #tcot

.@24AheadDotCom @VictorB123 Assume there are more would-be illegal aliens than jobs in U.S. (your statements about unemployment imply that)

.@24AheadDotCom @VictorB123 Wouldn't legalizing illegals so they could leave current jobs for new jobs that only hire legals (1/2)

.@24AheadDotCom @VictorB123 mean that their old employers would have more job openings for fresh illegal aliens?

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom Who the hell hires an illegal just for the sake of hiring an illegal? And if they are now legal, they won't take

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom sub-market wages anymore. Anyone preying on illegals will be shit out of luck.

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom more immigrants (legal or illegal) = larger labor force = lower MARKET wages.

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom Why does a US county with 13% unemployment have a 30% worker shortage?

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Those who prey on illegal will just hire new illegals - or do you propose legalizing everyone who wants to come?

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom @VictorB123 #LORDONMYKNEES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

.@Debbz323 @24AheadDotCom You did see the 2nd part to my question,didn't you?I'm not advocating legalization, quite the opposite.

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom Yes! Agreeing

(TWEET_NOT_AVAILABLE)

@johnmarzan @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom But there's this: http://t.co/8Q8QFZmieG

@johnmarzan @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom Why would someone want to leave a place with less than 5% unemployment for a place with 11%?

@VictorB123 @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom because of the great recession in 2008, their illegal alien parents lost their jobs.

@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom why do you think ppl from latin america would rather go all the way north to USA than work in mexico? duh!

@johnmarzan @24AheadDotCom Right now the number of Mexicans who say they would live in another country is the same as Americans who say same

@johnmarzan @24AheadDotCom Example: http://t.co/ppcLpj2UTY

@johnmarzan @24AheadDotCom You guys are looking through a 10 year old lens.

@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom i read from kaus mickey that data shows a high percentage of mexicans would move to the USA illegally if they can

@johnmarzan @24AheadDotCom Down by half in 5 years from 22% to 11% of Mexicans. The same percentage 11% of Americans would leave the US.

@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom you're the one using old data re "net migration = 0". the economy in USA is improving, so illegal immig back up

@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom that's great. the plan shld always be to help mexico's economy, not import poverty from mexico into the southwest

.@VictorB123: try to limit responses to a few tweets, OK? Ex-illegal aliens moving up will screw American #WalMart cashiers, etc. #ows #tlot

@24AheadDotCom They are ALREADY screwing Americans. The number of Americans being screwed will not change.

@24AheadDotCom It will make no difference except to make them LESS likely to need welfare.

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom You don't think amnesty will encourage more illegal immigration?

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom You don't realize most "reform" packages include vast increases in legal immigration?

@Glaivester No. At least not right now. Migration right now is a net zero. Mexico has less than 5% unemployment and @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester better economic growth than the US has. Why would someone want to come to a place with MORE unemployment? @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester With birth rates as low as they are and with the boomers retiring, we are going to HAVE to get more people @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester into the system paying taxes somehow. We can not support the baby boom on social security right now. @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester We are going to have to do one of three things: 1. Increase birth rates, 2: more immigration 3: kill old people @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester Increasing birth rates is probably not viable because Democrats are ruining our education system. @24AheadDotCom

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Migration has increased since Senate amnesty bill: http://t.co/eGirmc5XPp

@Glaivester But at the same time OUT migration has also increased. Still net zero migration. @24AheadDotCom

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom That assumes immigrants are paying more into system than they take.

@Glaivester California farms are losing their Mexican workers. Currently a huge worker shortage in the central valley. @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester They are going home. Better jobs for them in Mexico. Construction is booming, so is manufacturing. @24AheadDotCom

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Bringing in more non-English speakers and people who on average have lower IQs will help the education system?

@Glaivester Mexico has a 4.5% unemployment rate. They aren't in a hurry to leave. @24AheadDotCom

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Presumably, when these immigrants get old enough for Social Security, they will decline to collect it?

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Such a shortage they have to pay decent wages. The horror! http://t.co/t5C9hbdNuB

@Glaivester Everyone is basing their opinions on a 10 year old situation. Situation is different today. @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester Nope. The Americans don't want the jobs at any wage. Don't want to do manual labor. @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester When I was a kid, there would be local white kids alongside the Mexicans in the fields picking. Not anymore. @24AheadDotCom

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Yes, number of Americans without jobs is much, much higher.

@VictorB123 @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom most of their ppl are already working in the states. duh!

@Glaivester That was a good summer job. These days we have huge numbers of unemployed in Fresno that won't take the work. @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester Fresno County has an 11.9% unemployment rate yet the farms are short workers. @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester Tulare County has a 13% unemployment rate. The problem is that welfare pays too much. @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester THIS is why they aren't working: http://t.co/rqJpIvKzTh @24AheadDotCom

@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom obamcare+amnesty=toxic. obamacare incentivices business to hire legalized illegals over citizens to avoid ACA tax

@VictorB123 @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom that's old data. migration is slowly going back up again after The Great Recession in 2008

That @24AheadDotCom guy Victor is a middle GOP prog. IMHO.

@johnmarzan You have no idea what you are talking about. Americans are moving to mexico. http://t.co/BLhdbwfSur @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom

@johnmarzan More Americans are moving to Mexico than Mexicans moving to America. @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom

@johnmarzan Show me the data. @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom "Won't do jobs at any wage." Nice way to avoid even trying higher wages as incentive.

@VictorB123 @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom LOL, those are US-born mexicans anchor babies with their illegal parents.

@johnmarzan Not really. US citizens are retiring there in droves @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Even in most immigrant-heavy profession, Americans 37% of workforce (download table): http://t.co/vWnbkmDs4a

@johnmarzan I have friends that already have their retirement place. @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester Majority of illegals around me come from India and China. Arrive on legitimate visas and just don't leave @24AheadDotCom

@Glaivester They come here on a tourist visa or to visit family and just stay here. @24AheadDotCom

@VictorB123 @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom those are mexican americans with their illegal alien parents.

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Amnesty will open up more jobs to immigrants: http://t.co/IFpKQCxfKk result? Current illegals move up (1/2)

@johnmarzan @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom Show me the data that says that. I PERSONALLY KNOW people who have retired there.

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom Their old jobs opening up creates a pull for more illegals who previously would not have migrated. (2/2)

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom So? (1) I never said Mexico was our only problem. (2) We want visa enforcement, not just border enforcement.

.@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom And this is not a problem? You think Chinese and Indians are not competing with Americans for jobs?

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom Ok, I will say this from the perspective of working in a high tech company in silicon valley:

@VictorB123 @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom why would non-mexican americans en masse move to mexico?

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom Those people come from India and China with world class engineering degrees. We advertise jobs for MONTHS.

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom We can't get American applicants. They all have degrees in "sociology" or "gender studies" that we don't need.

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom American education system is pumping out lazy idiots at an increasing pace.

.@VictorB123: after #immigration "reform", will fmr illegal aliens be able to move up in the job mkt & get jobs they can't get now? #OWS #p2

@24AheadDotCom Democrats will probably try to prevent that by putting them on welfare where they lose money if they try to move up.

@24AheadDotCom But in any case, people moving up are not a bad thing. It means they also pay more in taxes, need less in services.

@24AheadDotCom When someone moves up, it helps the entire country.

@24AheadDotCom But again, most LIKELY what will happen with work permits is if someone is between jobs, they are more likely to go home.

@24AheadDotCom CURRENT policy discourages them from going home when the work runs out.

@24AheadDotCom @Glaivester @VictorB123 yes they will

@24AheadDotCom @Glaivester @VictorB123 yes and they will be able to vote

@Debbz323 No they won't. Nothing so far proposed gives anyone a right to vote. Stop making stuff up. @24AheadDotCom @Glaivester

@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom @Glaivester that is the ends to the means. Not making anything up

@VictorB123 @24AheadDotCom @Glaivester Go do some homework

@Debbz323 I have. I have friends that live there. My daughter goes down there. @24AheadDotCom @Glaivester

@Debbz323 Example: http://t.co/tarTK38Bj9 @24AheadDotCom @Glaivester

@Debbz323 They have faster economic growth, half the unemployment that we have. Construction boom. @24AheadDotCom @Glaivester

@Debbz323 And many US farms from California are moving there. Leasing land and water they can't get here. @24AheadDotCom @Glaivester

.@msnbcDisrupt: hey Karen! Can you ask @dcbigjohn if he was paid by USChamber to enable #immigration 'reform", or if he just acts like it?

.@24AheadDotCom @msnbcDisrupt @dcbigjohn Do you know why groups like @USChamber want "reform?" http://t.co/ZE8bwj7jpL #McDonalds

.@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom hey there. I have office hours every night at DC9. I'm the giant skinhead at the bar. come troll me in person!

.@dcbigjohn @24AheadDotCom Physical intimidation - the key to winning a debate on the merits.

.@dcbigjohn @24AheadDotCom I live in Augusta Maine. DC9 would be a little out of my way.

.@dcbigjohn @24AheadDotCom I'll meet you at Mulholland's Augusta House of Pancakes (AHOP) any weekday morning. Augusta, Maine 04330.

@Glaivester @24AheadDotCom I love pancakes

@dcbigjohn @Glaivester @24AheadDotCom Prince made Jess eat pancakes on 'New Girl' tonight.

Jan 2008: We Can Stop The Hate: Mexico-linked groups try silencing opponents of illegal immigration: http://t.co/WksGv6EFEO

@24AheadDotCom @Glaivester When Americans start illegally immigrating to en masse to Mexico, I'll start caring what they think.

RT @Glaivester: .@luvcats13 @24AheadDotCom @calicrusader What is disgusting about saying "no jobs in America if you are not authorized to b…