Obama reiterates magical, dishonest plan: illegal aliens won't get healthcare because illegal aliens will be legalized first
As previously discussed, Barack Obama has a magical, deceptive plan to avoid giving healthcare to illegal aliens: give them legal status first. Someone could cross the border illegally one day, obtain easily faked documentation showing they'd been living in the U.S. for years the next, and then get on the path to citizenship - and eligible to receive Obama's largess - the day after that. Most forms of buying votes are more subtle; give Obama credit for boldness.
And, he's made his magical plan even more explicit in an interview with Maria Elena Salinas earlier today (video here, transcription per Andrea Nill):
"As I said before, the best way to deal with undocumented immigrants is to make them documented... As I just said, when it comes to legal residents we want to find ways that they can access preventative services, enrollment services, regular treatments. So, I think there’s a difference between legal immigrants who work here - they should have access to medical services. Undocumented workers who are here illegally - we want to create comprehensive immigration reform so they can get on a path to citizenship. Until they do, we can’t reward them with some of the benefits which quite frankly cost us a lot of money. There will be a lot of resistance when people who are citizens and legal residents aren’t getting these services and we’re giving them to undocumented workers."
He's admitting that illegal aliens would be a strain on the system and that his system would have limited resources and thus illegal aliens would take healthcare benefits from citizens. His solution is completely dishonest and boils down to just waving a magic wand, changing the status of millions of people without dealing with any of the cost issues involved.
And, as with anyone else supporting comprehensive immigration reform, he's supporting a rolling amnesty: after those who are currently here illegally are made legal residents and a new population of illegal aliens builds up, the same forces that are now pushing for amnesty would push for a new one. And, they'd be able to do that with even greater political power than they have now.
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Mary (not verified)
Thu, 07/30/2009 - 23:58
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HS 18912 maryellenburke2005@comcast.net 2009-07-31T01:58:32-05:0
Chain migration will bring even more future voters for Obama OUR NEW KING !!!!
Brittanicus (not verified)
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 00:14
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HS 18913 infinity555@comcast.net 2009-07-31T02:14:06-05:00
As our rights are infringed upon by our own government, so Americans and those here legally will never benefit from a decent health care plan, owing to the abomination called ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. By an Act in United States Congress passed in 1986, Hospital and ambulance services must provide care to anyone needing emergency treatment in spite of citizenship, legal status or capacity to pay. The predicament being that 20 million plus illegal immigrant families are using this law, for even minor ailments such as the common cold. Why should foreign nationals sign up for health care or anything, when they can get Taxpayers to pay for it all..? But this is not just an American dilemma, as it has been forcibly imposed on subjects of the European Union. This is causing a major derailment in the EU, because both legal and illegal entrants are stealing away the single payer medical care providers, to the citizens who have paid into the system from the time they first started work. A decent controlled governmental health care benefit, can—NEVER--be established, when a startling report disclosed the details of a cloaked meeting between nationwide businesses and open-borders groups working under the radical cover of the IMMIGRATIONWORKSUSA a lobbying group. The secret Capitol Hill National Summit" took place last month and revealed the sinister intention behind the lobbying entities efforts. Tamar Jacoby, who runs ImmigrationWorksUSA, kicked off the conference by stating the true aspiration of the coalition. The basic target is to promote THE FREE FLOW OF LABOR INTO THE USA, with—AS ALWAYS-- the taxpayer being the beneficiary for corporate welfare. They want expedited cheap labor, where no American worker—NEED APPLY! WE MUST ACT NOW, OR IT WILL BE TOO LATE! These special interest lobbyists are well furnished with money from corporate America. We must empower mandated E-Verify as part of the Save Act, where everybody is screened in the workplace. Call your lawmaker TODAY! at 202-224-3121 I Want a health care system--even government run. BUT IT"S SURE TO FAIL, IF TAXES ARE BEING EXTORTED TO PAY FOR FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? Millions of phone calls from angry Americans are jamming the Washington Switchboards. It is making these pandering politicians to corporate welfare, very anxious. Support for the bi-partisan E-VERIFY PART OF THE SAVE Act, which will expand E-Verify and protect American Workers! We must focus on the monolithic problem in terminating illegal immigrants-and the jobs that attract illegal aliens. WE WILL ALWAYS BE PAYING FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS, UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING NOW? Many GOP members are against a Path to citizenship for lawbreakers, so we mostly need the phones ringing in the ears of Democrats, who see the millions of illegal aliens as a positive voting block. WE MUST STOP IT NOW OF SUFFER FROM IRREVERSIBLE POPULATION GROWTH. DEMAND NO AMNESTY! NO FAMILY UNIFICATION KNOWN AS CHAIN MIGRATION! BUILD THE ORI
llamajockey (not verified)
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 06:19
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HS 18914 cvlamantia@comcast.net 2009-07-31T08:19:41-05:00
CNN did a story on the costs for routine medical conditions at various hospitals for those with out health insurance. The costs in states with large numbers of illegal aliens were often 3-4 times those of states with the lowest percentage of Illegals. Of course CNN made no connection between illegal immigration and run away medical expense burdens on uninsured working Americans. Public option coverage for illegal aliens will not fly if the electorate is informed. On the other hand the Hispanic Caucus will gladly screw over working Hispanic Americas and everybody else and vote against any Health Insurance bill that does not cover illegals. The MSM wants you to believe that only the Blue Dog Democrats will be responsible if Obama fails to pass healthcare reform. The MSM failed to explain that the CBO budget numbers put a trillion+ dollar price tag on covering illegal who would end up being dumped in the "Public Option" plan. Obama administration disputes the CBO calculations saying there will be no illegal problem because the illegals will be granted amnesty and presto the trillion dollar figure disappears. Once again the hardcore lefties and dumbass spineless liberal elites screw over the rest of the Democratic party.
Mary (not verified)
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 13:12
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HS 18915 maryellenburke2005@comcast.net 2009-07-31T15:12:07-05:0
Cash for Clunkers has been suspended...Yeah I really want these SCHMUCKS controlling my body via health care. Time to STOP paying taxes to these CROOKS!!!
Leave it to Beaner (not verified)
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 17:13
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HS 18916 2009-07-31T19:13:00-05:00
"the best way to deal with undocumented immigrants is to make them documented..." Sounds just like Bush.
Brittanicus (not verified)
Sat, 08/01/2009 - 02:21
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HS 18917 infinity555@comcast.net 2009-08-01T04:21:40-05:00
These politicians voted Against the Nathan Deal Amendment, that would Prevent Health Care Benefits to Illegal Aliens. Simply put--it's not their BLOODY MONEY! So what! Do they care if taxpayers have to foot the behemoth bill, for anybody who snubs our laws and enters a sovereign country called America? The nationwide parasites are --CHEAP LABOR--businesses who could care less, because they pile up enormous profits. The corporate hierarchy have been having a field day--FOR DECADES. A foreign national gets hurt, their service manager or whoever the underling is, drives the maimed person and relinquishes any responsibility by dumping them on the emergency hospital entranceway. BINGO! nothing to pay! Perhaps Americans should find some old shoddy clothes, no shave, no haircut and enter every emergency room in our country in the millions? Speak a lot of gibberish and carry no identification with a small splinter in their finger, a touch of a fever or any minor condition. By federal law the hospital will have an emergency on a--EMERGENCY. I am afraid Americans have been Lemmings going over a proverbial cliff, since who knows when? We just keep paying and paying even more to the IRS, to support--ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Try getting free health care in any other country, other than societies in the European Union? A FAT CHANCE! We are literary being taxed to death, to give welfare to the business overlords. Even our Democrats who are trying to engineer health care for every American---INCLUDED 20 PLUS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND THEIR LARGE FAMILIES. Here are 29 Judas Iscariot's, who sold the American people out--for a lot more than 13 pieces of silver? HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. Capps (D-CA), Eshoo (D-CA), Harman (D-CA), Matsui (D-CA), McNerney (D-CA), Waxman (D-CA), DeGette (D-CO), Murphy (D-CT), Castor (D-FL), Rush (D-IL), Schakowsky (D-IL), Braley (D-IA), Sarbanes (D-MD), Markey (D-MA), Dingell (D-MI), Stupak (D-MI), Pallone (D-NJ), Weiner (D-NY), Butterfield (D-NC), Space (D-OH), Sutton (D-OH), Doyle (D-PA), Gordon (D-TN), Gonzalez (D-TX), Green (D-TX),Welch (D-VT), Christensen (D-VI), Inslee (D-WA) and Baldwin (D-WI). I'm afraid I would be banned if I used the right epithet, when leaving a comment for these so called lawmakers? These are the betrayers of--ALL--taxpayers. These 29 traitors gave illegal immigrants the right to pilfer your billfold and purse, while they sit in their Washington office collecting their 6 figure salaries. REMEMBER THEM AND THROW THEM OUT! DEMAND NO AMNESTY! NO FAMILY UNIFICATION KNOWN AS CHAIN MIGRATION! BUILD THE ORIGINAL FENCE! NO MORE HEALTH CARE OR ANY OTHER KIND OF BENEFITS FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. CLOSE THE BORDER AND STATION THE NATIONAL GUARD. $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS, JUST IN RETIREMENT BENEFITS? Learn uncorrupted facts at NUMBERSUSA. Copy, Paste and Distribute freely
steve (not verified)
Sat, 08/01/2009 - 05:44
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HS 18918 2009-08-01T07:44:09-05:00
Start getting active fellow activists.
Fred Dawes (not verified)
Sat, 08/01/2009 - 16:29
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HS 18919 dawes57@cox.net 2009-08-01T18:29:11-05:00
Buy Guns be free think like Americans and not monkey people. Mary is right.
Mary (not verified)
Mon, 08/03/2009 - 14:45
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HS 18920 maryellenburke2005@comcast.net 2009-08-03T16:45:56-05:0
Hey Fred, what do you have against monkeys?
Stephanie Bulmer (not verified)
Fri, 09/11/2009 - 15:06
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HS 18921 Doingrightbecauseitsright@gmail.com 2009-09-11T17:06:23
Shouldn't we address the issue of Immigration separately from health care? A good portion of our economy relies on people who are here illegally (are contributing to communities and the economy positively), so we need to decide who will stay as partcipatory citizens and who will return to their home country. It's true that so long as the illegals are here it is only humane to offer emergency help (a burden of being an ethical society and neglecting to manage this population for decades), but I don't want to wait decades for this to be resolved before ensuring that all Americans have access to health care. I have insurance through my employer but only so long as I am employed, and I know so many families who don't now because they lost their jobs with it. After the mortgage mess I don't want to put my health in the hands of for-profit private businesses. I'd prefer to have something public sector in place. We can always vote in new leadership to manage it differently, but we need something in place first.