The "libertarians" at Reason Magazine have yet another post (reason . com/hitandrun/2004/12/family_values_d_1.shtml) supporting illegal immigration. See my comments.

"Liberal" TalkLeft supports driver's licenses for illegal aliens. I supply the correct side of the argument here (talkleft . com/new_archives/009067.html) and in the extended entry.

The comment at TalkLeft:

First-We have an enormous number of illegal aliens in this country because that is the way a large slice of the electorate wants it to be. From cheap nannies to cheap farm workers and everywhere in between, many persons and businesses from accross the political spectrum benefit from the labor of illegal aliens.

The great majority of Americans are opposed to illegal immigration. It's the elites that benefit and that have caused the current situation, not the "electorate."

As for the organization, here's the board (worldpolicy.org/wpi/admin.html) for their parent organization. Katrina VD Heuvel, Eric Alterman, the Ford Foundation, etc. etc. I suspect they're a "liberal" group.

As for their reasons:

First, the very fact that 13 million illegal aliens are already within our borders means that a perimeter-based defense is porous.

The problem isn't with the perimeter defense so much as with what happens behind the perimeter. "Liberals" try to give driver's licenses to illegal aliens. That makes it easier to live here illegally. That increases the number of people trying to come here. That makes the job of defending the perimeter more difficult. Plus, those who employ illegal labor are rarely punished. Correct those issues and the perimeter defense would be much more effective.

As for the second reason, we reduce the size of the haystack by refusing to give driver's licenses to illegal aliens. That will force many of them to self-deport and many fewer to come. That's an effective way to reduce the size of the haystack.

The "market" is already supplying fake documentation. If you reduce the number of illegals here, you would drive the price for fake documentation up. And, by improving the security of DLs, you'd make such counterfeiting more difficult.

I also think it's funny the various contortions of the language TL uses to describe illegal aliens. I'm sure TL has a copy of the U.S. Code handy. Look at, for instance, this. Yep, that's right. The U.S. Code uses the phrase "illegal aliens." That is the correct, legal term.

I also wonder why "liberals" would support cheap, exploited labor and massive corporate subsidies.

Much information on this subject is available in my Immigration category.