Ben Smith /Politico keeps lying about Obama certificate issue
If you trust the reporting of Ben Smith of the Politico, I hope to change your mind. He offers "Culture of conspiracy: The Birthers" (link), which is just the latest in his attempt to smear those who have questions about where Barack Obama was born and whether he's eligible to be president. And, this excerpt contains a blatant lie:
A quick reality check, before we dive in: The challenges to Obama's eligibility have no grounding in evidence. Courts across the country have summarily rejected the movement's theory - that Obama can't be a citizen because his father wasn't - as a misreading of U.S. law; and Hawaii officials, along with contemporary birth announcements, affirm that Obama was in fact born in Honolulu in 1961.
The last bit is completely false:
1. Those "contemporary birth announcements" do not list where Obama was born or in which hospital (see the first item here). They only list the supposed address of his parents. No one has ever documented who placed the ads, and they aren't proof of anything.
2. Hawaii officials never "affirm[ed] that Obama was in fact born in Honolulu". Read their statement, which says nothing about where Obama was born. And, when I asked them to confirm Ben Smith's assumptions, they refused.
See the Obama citizenship summary for much more.
The bottom line is that Ben Smith of the Politico is a brazen liar.
3/16/09 UPDATE: Ben Smith lied again, saying (politico.com/news/stories/0309/20033.html):
Obama has actually produced a copy of his Hawaii birth certificate, and it has been certified by the state of Hawaii.
1. He only "produced" it to FactCheck, and the same page where they have pictures of the cert - pictures that they later compressed and removed EXIF data from - contains the blatant lie that Hawaii verified where Obama was born.
2. The state of Hawaii never "certified" that picture. They only said they have a cert on file. The picture and what they have on file may be different.
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Joe Citizen (not verified)
Mon, 03/02/2009 - 01:31
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HS 17519 jc@werwe.com 2009-03-02T03:31:47-06:00
Actually, the bottom line is that you are a nut job.
Mary (not verified)
Mon, 03/02/2009 - 12:48
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HS 17520 maryellenburke2005@comcast.net 2009-03-02T14:48:21-06:0
The BOTTOM LINE is he still hasn't shown it...has he? Any idiot who can't see how easy it would be for him to end this controversy by producing the birth document is the real "nut job". Common sense has truly disappeared when reality is called a "conspiracy theory" . Hello...the constitution calls for a president to be American born. It should have been a prerequisite from the get-go. Unfortunately the dumbing down of America is rampant and taking over.
petty bourgeois (not verified)
Mon, 03/02/2009 - 14:19
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HS 17521 2009-03-02T16:19:57-06:00
Joe Citizen: anonymous coward without an argument or evidence Obama is a citizen. Why do the leftists always come here to engage in ad hominem? Because they wear their stupidity on their sleeve like a badge of honor.
Mary (not verified)
Mon, 03/02/2009 - 22:01
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HS 17522 maryellenburke2005@comcast.net 2009-03-03T00:01:56-06:0
And they know deep in their hollow heart space that they have made a HUGE error in electing "The One."
marsha (not verified)
Tue, 03/03/2009 - 12:09
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HS 17523 marbur4@aol.com 2009-03-03T14:09:47-06:00
I think Mary got this one right! ! !
Fred Dawes (not verified)
Wed, 03/04/2009 - 02:15
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HS 17524 dawes57@cox.net 2009-03-04T04:15:42-06:00
Obama is now in power for one reason the system boys wanted him in for the total dismantling of this nation and that is why he is president and that is the end of th, story you can't get him out he is the front rat for the one world monkeys. By the way the obama family has renamed the white house the people house isn't that telling you something about what comes next?
Mary (not verified)
Wed, 03/04/2009 - 09:30
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HS 17525 maryellenburke2005@comcast.net 2009-03-04T11:30:57-06:0
The anger is rising...if you listen to talk radio.....(which is why they want to shit it down) .Did you see Pat Buchanans' column ? He says it's time for PITCHFORKS !! And many agree....
Mary (not verified)
Wed, 03/04/2009 - 12:40
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HS 17526 maryellenburke2005@comcast.net 2009-03-04T14:40:41-06:0
That was a typo ...honest....but apropos none the less.........
Fred Dawes (not verified)
Wed, 03/04/2009 - 14:13
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HS 17527 dawes57@cox.net 2009-03-04T16:13:06-06:00
Mary is great keep going.
Jonathan Creek (not verified)
Mon, 03/09/2009 - 04:52
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HS 17528 jcreek32@hotmail.com 2009-03-09T06:52:33-05:00
"Joe Citizen: anonymous coward without an argument or evidence Obama is a citizen. Why do the leftists always come here to engage in ad hominem? Because they wear their stupidity on their sleeve like a badge of honor." Congratulations. You have won today's Award for Idiotic Irony, based on the following criteria: 1. "anonymous coward" - So petty bourgeois is your real name? How outre of your parents. 2. "anonymous coward" - Kicking off with an ad hominem in a post criticizing someone for an ad hominem attack. Stellar. 3. "... without an argument or evidence ...". Strip away the foam-flecked nonsense in your post and there is nothing left. Wear your award with pride. Idiot.
Mary (not verified)
Mon, 03/09/2009 - 14:23
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HS 17529 maryellenburke2005@comcast.net 2009-03-09T16:23:33-05:0
Where's the beef????
A Reader (not verified)
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 02:29
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HS 17530 reader@reader.com 2009-03-26T04:29:42-05:00
Thanks for keeping a clear insistence on the basic facts like this. By now it's clearly probable that Obama's administration is fraudulent. Each of us must come to our own terms with this. At some point, people like Ben Smith will most likely come over. The facts themselves don't lie.
query_tool (not verified)
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 21:08
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HS 17531 2009-05-27T23:08:47-05:00
@ A Reader "By now it's clearly probable that Obama's administration is fraudulent." What does "clearly probable" even mean?
keith G (not verified)
Mon, 07/27/2009 - 21:24
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HS 17532 no@way.com 2009-07-27T23:24:08-05:00
Wow, you folks really do exist. Wow.
Larry Craig's D... (not verified)
Mon, 07/27/2009 - 21:30
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HS 17533 lcdd@lcdd.com 2009-07-27T23:30:33-05:00
How come you need proof for Obama when you accept god's existence based on nothing but conjecture?
jenniebee (not verified)
Mon, 07/27/2009 - 21:50
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HS 17534 jennie.bee@comcast.net 2009-07-27T23:50:25-05:00
The "BOTTOM LINE" is that Hawaii has said they have a certificate on file for Barack Obama. So unless you think that Hawaii is in the business of certifying Kenyan births, Obama was born in Hawaii.
24AheadDotCom (not verified)
Mon, 07/27/2009 - 22:50
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HS 17535 asdfasd@sdfasd.com 2009-07-28T00:50:13-05:00
jenniebee: If you'd bothered to read the summary page [1], you'd know that Hawaii does in fact hold certs for those born outside the state. Those born in other states or even countries can get a valid Hawaiian birth certificate.
Links:
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[1] 24ahead.com/s/obama-citizenship
CMcD (not verified)
Tue, 07/28/2009 - 00:04
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HS 17536 2009-07-28T02:04:12-05:00
100% batshit insane.
Larry Craig's D... (not verified)
Tue, 07/28/2009 - 00:33
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HS 17537 lcdd@lcdd.com 2009-07-28T02:33:07-05:00
I just realized something much to the disappointment of the birthers. Nothing will come of it no matter how mad you get, and Obama will still be president until 2016.
Anonymous (not verified)
Tue, 07/28/2009 - 03:00
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HS 17538 2009-07-28T05:00:11-05:00
You're a nutcase.
sluggo (not verified)
Tue, 07/28/2009 - 14:46
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HS 17539 sluggo@cats.com 2009-07-28T16:46:24-05:00
Wow... You people are really crazy. I suggest you seriously consider forming a third party to run Sara and Joe (the Plumber) for the President/VP jobs in 2012. Your Republican buddies in the House have just voted to support a resolution that Obama is a U.S. citizen. Obviously they are now under the mind-control rays coming out of the White House and can no longer be trusted. Given the geographical distance of Alaska from the White House and the low-IQ protection that Joe has, I suspect that both Sara and Joe have not yet succumbed. Good luck.
NLM (not verified)
Wed, 07/29/2009 - 18:56
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HS 17540 vinyl_fetishist@yahoo.com 2009-07-29T20:56:21-05:00
Birthers! You so crazy! Good luck with...um, whatever.
Kooky_mcKookenphuck (not verified)
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 03:09
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HS 17541 mc-kokster@gmail.com 2009-08-12T05:09:09-05:00
You are an idiot -- you realize you birffers have been taken by a joke -- an of colour retarded one at that, made by some hack in the right wing blogosphere. And you retards run with it. You think that everything you read, as long as it back up your ideology (regardless of whether its true or not) -- must be the gospel, and no one can prove otherwise. It's a shame you fucking retards can't be made accountable for your actions.
Kooky_mcKookenphuck (not verified)
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 03:18
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HS 17542 mc-kokster@gmail.com 2009-08-12T05:18:21-05:00
Everyone of you dumbasses should: Have your children removed from your care - -you are dangerous and don't know the difference between FACT and FICTION. Lose your jobs -- you are a danger to those around you, anyone who believes anything they read on the internet, and somehow think "they" have the inside scoop -- c'mon.. I will bet most of you don't work -- most are shunned by those around you when you try to talk all smart.. And to my fellow "libruls" punish these fuckers. I already fired one. Hope he enjoys his unemployment. Give him more time to clean his guns and get ready for the revolution I guess. But basically -- shun these people, kick them out of your business, if you find one working for you fire them -- and don't feel bad, feel good knowing that they will probably go home and shoot their wife in kids in the face before setting the house on fire -- cuz Glenn Beck told 'em the revolution is coming. Or worse they listen to that retarded cunt Alex Jones. Either way, darwinian law will take care of this -- the dumber of the species will just flame out, maybe then we can get back to business. Well I gotta go, there are some 13yr girls down the street that look pregnant, i need to do my duty and see if they need an abortion, or maybe read some Stalin together... Oh yeah. Biffers are faggots.