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In a previously-off the record interview with the Des Moines Register, Barack Obama had this to say about getting amnesty in 2013 (link):
Koch family, U.S. Chamber, businesses met to plan strategy (+Glenn Beck, tea parties, "mobilize citizens for November") - 10/20/10
Twice each year, the Koch family conducts strategy meetings with corporate and thought leaders to plan how to advance their "free market" ideology. ThinkProgress has the guest list and program for their June 2010 meeting (in Aspen), and, while immigration isn't mentioned, many of the known attendees are on the wrong side.
I don't normally recommend anything at ThinkProgress, but in this case I'll suggest taking a look at their post and downloading the PDF.
The participants in Aspen dined under the stars at the top of the gondola run on Aspen Mountain, and listened to Glenn Beck of Fox News in a session titled, “Is America on the Road to Serfdom?” (The title refers to a classic of Austrian economic thought that informs libertarian ideology, popularized by Mr. Beck on his show.)The participants included some of the nation’s wealthiest families and biggest names in finance: private equity and hedge fund executives like John Childs, Cliff Asness, Steve Schwarzman and Ken Griffin; Phil Anschutz, the entertainment and media mogul ranked by Forbes as the 34th-richest person in the country; Rich DeVos, the co-founder of Amway; Steve Bechtel of the giant construction firm; and Kenneth Langone of Home Depot... The group also included longtime Republican donors and officials, including Foster Friess, Fred Malek and former Attorney General Edwin Meese III... Participants listened to presentations from the (US Chamber of Commerce), as well as people who played leading roles in John McCain’s presidential campaign in 2008, like Nancy Pfotenhauer and Annie Dickerson, who also runs a foundation for Paul Singer, a hedge fund executive who like the Kochs is active in promoting libertarian causes.
Malek currently raises funds for Karl Rove.
There's also a tea parties link: one of the June sessions was called "Mobilizing Citizens for November" ("Is there a chance this fall to elect leaders who are more strongly committed to liberty and prosperity? This session will further assess the landscape and offer a strategic plan to educate voters on the importance of economic freedom.") The hosts were Sean Noble (@snoble37), Karl Crow of Themis, Mark Mix of National Right to Work, and Tim Phillips of Americans for Prosperity. AFP has been a very active "facilitator" of the teaparty movement.
Those who spoke at the June meeting include Peter Schiff (bad on immigration), Stephen Moore (ditto}, and Michael Barone (ditto). Others are: Ramesh Ponnuru; Phil Kerpen and Jeff Crank of AFP; Peter Wallison and Arthur Brooks of the American Enterprise Institute, Russ Roberts and Veronique de Rugy of the Mercatus Center (associated with George Mason University; see the link); Gretchen Hamel; Charles Krauthammer; and Tim Carney of the Washington Examiner.
Those listed as attending past meetings include Haley Barbour (bad on immigration), John Stossel (ditto), Mike Pence (ditto), Bobby Jindal, Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas, Rush Limbaugh, Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn, Paul Ryan, and Tom Price.
Obviously, there's nothing wrong or that sinister about the Kochs holding meetings like these. And, George Soros and associates no doubt hold similar meetings with those on their side. However, just as Soros' loose borders policies no doubt "informs" the immigration policies that those who receive his money offer, the same is probably true of the Kochs' loose borders policies. Aside from DeMint, there are few above who might be considered "border hawks", and some of those listed are quite bad on that issue.
And, of course, this provides yet more evidence of how those in the supposedly grassroots tea parties movement are doing the bidding of the very rich, even if the teapartiers have been bamboozled into thinking otherwise.
Dave Neiwert channels Karl Rove: supports a race-based, anti-American labor system (hacendados) - 03/22/10
Far-left illegal immigration supporter David Neiwert of Crooks and Liars, in an interview with Roy Beck of Numbers USA, channeled the bugbear of the far-left, Karl Rove, supporting a race-based labor system. In the interview, Dave Niewert supported an anti-American system where Mexican workers would do the tough, dirty jobs while Americans would - paraphrasing - sit on their verandas watching them work, just like the hacienda system popular in countries to the south.
"I don't want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas."
Now, compare that to the comments from Dave Neiwert in the interview:
crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/my-chat-numbers-usas-roy-beck-those. Dave Neiwurt says he worked his way through school doing manual labor, but a couple years afterwards he found out that his old boss had hired all Mexican workers:
"The team I was part of didn't show up for work... [the boss] couldn't find any willing to haul pipe, so he went and go Mexican laborers. They did ten times the job, they were five times more reliable, and they did it all for the same amount of pay."
That statement is not only anti-American in that he's running down American workers. It's also anti-Mexican: he thinks only Mexicans are capable of doing manual labor. Not only that, but he's supporting desperate people working for low wages. But there's more: David Neiwert later sounds exactly like Karl Rove:
I'm telling you... the American Dream is to advance your children... our parents wanted us to go to college, they wanted us to move up in the world.
Please compare that to what Karl Rove said back in 2007: there's no difference at all. Both are supporting the same, anti-American and anti-Mexican system. Or, compare David Niewert's comments to this form letter from a Houston business group:
I work in the construction business in Houston Texas. I am here to tell you that we cannot find enough American citizens willing to labor in the hot sun!
See Beck's comments on the video for more; he was able to present a counter-argument, although he didn't aggressively try to discredit Neiwert as I'd like.
Over the past few weeks, Florida GOP Gov. Charlie Crist has found himself being put on the defensive more and more in the primary thanks to the challenge by ex-state House Speaker Marco Rubio. While Crist has financially overwhelmed Rubio to date, there are many Republicans -- particularly those in Flordia that are close to former GOP Gov. Jeb Bush -- who have publicly become more comfortable airing their skepticism about Crist in public. One of those Republicans with close ties to the Bush family, Karl Rove, has signaled his preference with his wallet. Rove confirms to NBC News that he has contributed a $1000 to Rubio's campaign, the donation will be made public when Rubio files his next FEC report (due Oct. 15)... This comes on the heels of Jeb Bush's public signal that he plans to stay neutral in the Crist-Rubio primary; Many believe this is Jeb's way of quietly telling influential Florida Republicans that he'd prefer Rubio but doesn't want to alienate Crist since he's still the heavy favorite in the primary.
Needless to say, Jeb Bush is a strong supporter of massive immigration and amnesty; Rove was probably the "evil genius" (so to speak) behind George W Bush's loose borders and amnesty/guest workers efforts. Neither one of them would support someone who opposes massive immigration and amnesty, strongly giving credence to my hunch that Marco Rubio supports massive immigration, whether of the guest worker or amnesty variety.
At an event earlier today, apparently a San Francisco loon tried to arrest Karl Rove for treason... by slapping him in handcuffs. Presumably she was led away to a detention center in Hayward. Developing...
The Internets are abuzz with the rumor that there's a video tape of Barack Obama's wife Michelle Obama railing against "whitey" at Reverend Wright's church. At post time the video - if it even exists - has not been released. Our new buddy Larry Johnson says that Karl Rove has a copy and is using it to fund an independent group that might offer it as an October surprise.
Mark Kleiman - someone who is shockingly a UCLA professor - writes :
The Bush Administration plans to steal hundreds of thousands of votes, most of them Democratic votes, in the 2008 elections by the simple expedient of sitting on new citizenship applications until after the elections.
He links to his site, which mostly just links to the WaPo article "Immigrant Paperwork Backs Up At DHS" (li
The White House has done outreach to liberal religious and Hispanic groups and, at the suggestion of chief political strategist Karl Rove, made more use of the blogosphere on immigration than it has on any issue since President Bush took office, aides said...
...Aides said it was Rove's idea to focus on blogs.
White House officials said [the backlash] had led them to engage the blogosphere in a concerted way for the first time, posting defenses on liberal and conservative sites.
One would think that if White House representatives had been engaging the blogosphere, I would have heard about it. I know that Hugh Hewitt interviewed Tony Snow, and I make a habit of never visiting RedState, but that's the only two possibilities I can think of. And, one would think that if they had outreached to "liberal" sites they would have posted about that; I doubt whether DailyKos has been allowing Karl Rove to post a diary there under his own name.
Note also that the White House has been "posting defenses", which might imply that they've been posting comments. Did they identify themselves as being with the Bush administration?
Or, did they (just as an example!) get a cheap-o dial-up account or use a proxy to disguise where their comments were coming from? That's certainly something worth looking into, especially if any laws were broken by doing so.
I note also the furious nature with which the David Leonhardt smear of Lou Dobbs spread around the internet (partial list of sites discussing it here). Call me paranoid, but to me it seemed a bit like a coordinated attack. I note also that according to technorati, the first major sites linking to it, in addition to mediabistro.com and the usual smear merchants like ThinkProgress and puffballs like andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com, were academics: poliblogger.com, brendan-nyhan.com, marginalrevolution.com, and economistsview.typepad.com, with the last three being open borders, "free" trade "economists". I note also that economist.com followed up with their own smear, as did the Columbia Journalism Review. There are also at least five dupe links to the same NYT article at digg.com, a fairly large number.
Obviously, this is all just speculation, but if the White House has been spreading propaganda on the federal government's dime, then perhaps someone should look into it. Especially if it's been covert.
UPDATE: Someone like Les Kinsolving should ask Tony Snow for a full list - including URLs - of the defenses they've posted. An enterprising citizen journalist could even file an FOIA request looking for a list of websites visited by White House staff filtered by blogs and forums and any information on dial-up accounts or proxies used.
UPDATE 2: Based on comments, we've got The Corner as another possibility and there are apparently White House posts at RedState (as if you could tell the difference). But, where are the liberal sites the NYT mentioned above?
The following video is basically the moving version of the post about Karl Rove's remark about not wanting his son to pick tomatoes. Please promulgate it on my behalf.
Speaking at a GOP women's luncheon, a congressman's wife says Karl Rove said the following yesterday:
"I don't want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas."
There's a slight chance that he didn't say this or it was taken out of context. Whether he actually said it or not, this statement isn't that shocking since "jobs Americans won't do" and the like are just more polite versions of the quote.
When the polls close, we urge Democrats across the country to gather outside their County Election Office for a candlelight vigil to Count Every Vote, all wearing the same color: Blue.
Imagine a Blue Revolution, every bit as joyous and historic as the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, the Cedar Revolution Lebanon, the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia,
ROLL CALL's John Bresnahann and Paul Kane detail: The 95-page report, which White House officials reviewed Wednesday evening but has yet to be formally approved by the panel, singled out two of President Bush's top lieutenants, Karl Rove and Ken Mehlman, as having been offered expensive meals and exclusive tickets to premier sporting events and concerts by Abramoff and his associates.
In total, the committee was able to document 485 contacts betwe
Schwarzenegger faces a re-election battle this fall, but said if Bush advisor Karl Rove were to call offering the president's help, he would decline the help because of the president's lack of popularity in California.What's that smell?
1. Of GOP '08 serious prospects, only George Allen looks as if he understands the immigration issue. (Unless you think Newt Gingrich is a serious prospect.)
2. Quote on GWB: "He loves his servants. He's a guy with a ranch and lots of Mexican help. Vicente Fox is a guy with a ranch and lots of Mexican help.
Les Kinsolving asked Tony Snow about border security:
"The president has made his views on border security well-known... and my question: Would the president make border security a higher priority if he were convinced it was being used as an entry point by terrorists like those who are part of Hezbollah and al-Qaida?"
"Think of it this way.
...Rove said the immigration system was "absolutely broken" relative to illegal entrants. He expounded in detail about efforts to diminish illegal crossings, including the number of repeated attempts by Mexicans, whom he said account for 85% of illegals.
Let's take a look at Karl Rove's new friends, the National Council of The Race ("La Raza") and who they're working with.
The group Defend Colorado New tried to pass Proposition 55 (similar to Arizona's Prop. 200 or CA's Prop. 187), but in June they were thwarted by a possibily activist CO Supreme Court.
On the other side is the deceptively-named Keep Colorado Safe. Their front people include former Denver mayor Federico Pena and former monkey-shiner Gary Hart. However, as discussed here, most of KCS's money is coming from... inside the Beltway.
The most generous supporter is the Service Employees International Union, a far-left, pro-illegal immigration group. And, another supporter is... Karl Rove's buddies at the NCLR.
As described in the latest article, KCS was originally formed to oppose an initiative from Tom Tancredo, and:
The group included representatives from more than a dozen local organizations, including Colorado Progressive Coalition, Rights for All People, American Friends Service Committee and Padres Unidos. They were old allies, joining in 2002 to defeat the English-only measure Amendment 31.
All of those worthy groups are part of Karl Rove's extended network of friends. Others in his extended network include:
...the political consulting firm of Welchert & Britz... Catherine Han Montoya, a former local social service agency worker who campaigned against Amendment 31, was now working at the National Council of La Raza... Leadership Conference on Civil Rights Education Fund and the Center for New Community. The three groups had just begun a collaboration to help states fight anti-illegal immigrant ballot initiatives through a $1.1 million grant from Atlantic Philanthropies... [which was] created in 1982 by Charles F. Feeney with his wealth from Duty Free Shoppers Group, Ltd., has given $3.4 billion in mostly anonymous grants across the world to civil rights and educational causes... Recently, the charity has made seven grants to U.S. organizations working on the immigration issue, including $7 million to a national group behind the spring wave of immigrant rallies... In addition to pledging money, the national organizations tried to unify local immigrant advocacy groups, including the Colorado Grassroots Movement for Immigrant Justice and the Coalition for Human Dignity Beyond Borders.... [Gary] Hart sits on the group's executive committee as does Mitch Ackerman, executive director of SEIU Local 105... Eliseo Medina, executive vice president of SEIU... has traveled frequently to Denver to work on the local campaign and said he does not expect that, or financial support, to stop... Bill Vandenberg, co-executive director of the Colorado Progressive Coalition and an executive committee member of Keep Colorado Safe [is unhappy with Pena's compromise]... Vandenberg said he will focus on working with the Grassroots Movement for Immigrant Justice, rather than Keep Colorado Safe, to alter the political environment... Fidel "Butch" Montoya, an immigrant activist, said "there's no reason to celebrate" the new laws and how Initiative 55 died.
Yesterday Karl Rove spoke before the far-left, Ford Foundation-sponsored, pro-illegal immigration racial power group National Council of La Raza ("The Race"). Even the AP admits that they're "left-leaning". Here's one thing he had to say:
"Too many simplify the problem into one word, 'amnesty,'...
White House adviser Karl Rove is scheduled to speak tomorrow at the annual conference of the federally funded, left-wing, open-borders-advocacy group, the National Council of La Raza.
If he does not want his speech to look like an act of appeasement, he should confront La Raza on its opposition to commonsense policies designed to secure both U.S. borders and U.S.
The National Council of La Raza ("National Council of The Race"), a far-left, Ford Foundation-sponsored racial power group, will be holding its annual meeting at the Los Angeles Convention Center on July 8-11.
This has been confirmed by someone else on the thread, so it seems accurate:
James Sensenbrenner just called in to Chris Core's conservative radio talk show [on KMAL] to report that Karl Rove, acting for the president, was actively trying to sabotage the House immigration bill by persuading other congressmen not to support it.
However, one of the more hidden varieties comes from those who think of Mexicans as just those happy smiling serf laborers out in the fields picking their "cheap" lettuce.
Of course, there are a few minor details still to be worked out. For instance, even diehard BushBots are starting to abandon ship. And, almost everyone else doesn't find Bush too very credible.
The White House is preparing to unveil an immigration-reform plan that would allow millions of undocumented residents to remain in the United States as guest workers, two Arizona congressmen said...
[...our "guests" get a three-year visa...]
As explained to the congressmen, the plan gives workers the opportunity to renew that visa for another three years befo
DETROIT (Reuters) - President Bush's senior adviser, Karl Rove, will take on a wider role in developing and coordinating policy in the president's second term, the White House announced on Tuesday.
Rove, who was Bush's top political strategist during his 2000 and 2004 presidential campaig
U.S. News discusses Bush's "guest worker" plan:
Back in 2001, George W. Bush, a newly elected president from a border state, had immigration on his mind. Within weeks of his inauguration, Bush vowed to extend a hand to Mexico, making an ambitious guest-worker proposal a hallmark of his administration. The president's dream was dashed by 9/11; tightening border controls, not loosening them, became the priority.
This is from Feb. 5 2004, but since I didn't link to it at the time:
Growing frustration over President Bush's immigration plan and lack of fiscal discipline came to a head behind closed doors at last weekend's Republican retreat in Philadelphia.
House lawmakers, stunned by the intensity of their constituents' displeasure at some of Mr.
The draft GOP platform, according to the NYT:
...it also supports the expansion of legal immigration, a position that is already drawing opposition from some in the party's conservative base...
On immigration, the platform supports Mr. Bush's call for a new temporary worker program that would also be open to some current illegal immigrants...
It's definitely time for new GOP leadership.
The Washington Times offers a confusing article:
Pennsylvania Rep. Melissa A. Hart will lead the Republican Party platform subcommittee that will tackle politically sensitive immigration issues, The Washington Times has learned...
"I'm still getting up off the floor. This is great for those of us interested in a more moderate immigration policy," said Craig Nelson, director of Friends of Immigration Law Enforcement.
Mr. Nelson said Mrs.
Or, to put it a few other ways:
Which candidate is less of a "populist?"
Which candidate is less likely to relate to "average Americans" and share their concerns?
To state it cynically, which candidate is slightly less likely to sell the rest of us out to global elites?
And, which candidate makes you yearn more strongly for a viable third party?
- Bush tries to present a cowboy image, and many people buy it whether they consider "cowboy" a good thing or not. Kerry tries to present a tres sportif image.
Malkin discusses the NPA harrassment of Karl Rove in 'A closer look at left-wing thuggery':
...NPA members are funded by the usual suspects -- "progressive" charities such as the Tides Foundation, Ben & Jerry's Foundation, and the MacArthur, Ford and Rockefeller foundations. But they are also funded by your tax dollars.
Tasty Manatees has a very informative post about the leaders of the NPA harassment of Karl Rove. It turns out that the two leaders mentioned by the WaPo are school teachers. They may have commandeered students and school buses for their stunt, or they may have done it all legal like.
This is funny, annoying, disturbing, heartening, and shocking all at the same time:
Several hundred people stormed the small yard of President Bush's chief political strategist, Karl Rove, yesterday afternoon, pounding on his windows, shoving signs at others and challenging Rove to talk to them about a bill that deals with educational opportunities for immigrants [sic: it should read "illegal immigrants" -- LW]...
The crowd then grew more aggressive, fanning around the three accessible