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Marco Rubio (FAQ, amnesty, immigration)

Marco Rubio is a U.S. senator from Florida and a strong supporter of immigration reform, aka legalizing illegal aliens, aka amnesty. In the beginning of 2012 he crafted his own plan to legalize younger illegal aliens, and at the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013 he began working with other politicians to craft a much broader amnesty.

The links after this summary have often extensive discussions of how his immigration plans won't work and will do great harm. Here are some questions and answers about his immigration stance:

Q. Would Rubio's immigration plan harm the U.S.?
A. Yes, his plan would greatly harm the U.S. See comprehensive immigration reform and the other links below.

Q. Is Rubio credible?
A. Not at all. See how Marco Rubio tries to deceive you.

Q. What can I do to help block Rubio's plan?
A. Help me discredit him. Help me discredit or try to turn any leader who supports his plan. See what I do in many of my tweets ( @24AheadDotCom_ ) and help out or do something similar. It's not difficult at all to search Twitter for those remaining few people who support Rubio, and then try to change their minds. In the case of leaders, try to use their support for Rubio to turn their followers against them. Occasionally CC one or two of his workers (list here) so they hear footsteps.

Q. Is Rubio's plan "amnesty"?
A. Yes and no. It's "amnesty" as used in the broad sense that most people use it: to mean a massive legalization program. This page and other posts here use "amnesty" in order to avoid typing "a massive legalization program for illegal aliens" over and over. However, in the formal context or when dealing with Rubio supporters, it's best not to use that term. See reform not amnesty. And, whenever you see Marco Rubio denying his plan is amnesty, recall this video of John McCain doing the same thing.

Q. Would Rubio's immigration plan harm the GOP?
A. Yes: it would create millions more new Democrat voters than Republican voters. See #6 here for more.

Q. Has Rubio aided Obama on immigration?
A. Yes, Marco Rubio greatly helped Obama on immigration.

Q. Who supports Rubio's plan?
A. See the lists of supposed conservative bloggers and supposed conservative leaders, and help discredit them over supporting such a plan.

Q. Who else supports Rubio's plan or at least his moves on immigration?
A. Those include: the Whitehouse, the National Council of La Raza, the New York Times, Frank Sharry (a leading amnesty promoter), and more.

Q. Is Rubio's plan conservative?
A. Not at all. Here are 10 ways it isn't conservative.

Q. Is Rubio's amnesty "humane"?
A. No: see false compassion.

Q. Are there any downsides to legalizing young illegal aliens as Rubio wants to do?
A. That plan has several huge downsides, such as depriving struggling Americans of college. See DREAM Act (the same dynamic applies no matter the details of a specific plan).

Q. Are there better alternatives for the GOP than Rubio's plan?
A. Immigration is one of the areas where the Democratic Party is weakest and what they want to do is least popular. Any Democrat who supports the anti-American DREAM Act could and should be discredited. Rather than discrediting people like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durbin, Rubio came up with his own variation on that anti-American bill.

Q. Are there better alternatives for the GOP than Rubio's plan?
A. Definitely: see attrition.

Last modified Aug 26, 2014
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GOP 11/10/15 Debate: Marco Rubio wants fewer philosophers, more welders - 11/11/15

At the 11/10/15 GOP debate, Marco Rubio said, to wild applause, "I don't know why we have stigmatized vocational education. Welders make more money than philosophers. We need more welders and less philosophers." Transcript at [1], video below.

Marco Rubio aide: some American workers "can't cut it..., can't do it, don't want to do it" (Enrique Gonzalez) - 06/16/13

Anti-Americanism undergirds a good part of the support for comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty). For an example, see all those who've used the talking point jobs Americans wont do. Sometimes they're open about it. supports immigration reform, secretly met with Jeb Bush (Herman Cain, Home Depot, Teaparty Express, TPNN) - 05/17/13

Over three years ago I asked if the Teaparty movement will stumble us into amnesty, and before then I pointed out that supporters of amnesty include those in the Teaparty sphere.

Tea Party fake patriots to help Marco Rubio push amnesty (immigration, Tea Party Express, TheTeaParty.Net, Norquist) - 05/07/13

From this: Several conservative activists and tea party group leaders are meeting with Sen. Marco Rubio Tuesday afternoon to discuss immigration reform, including a list of what they support – and don’t. In a draft of their seven principles, obtained by POLITICO, the groups make no calls for a ban on “amnesty” – a longtime rallying cry of conservatives grassroots groups.

Marco Rubio admits amnesty supporters will fight amnesty's "tough" enforcement provisions, but has no plan - 05/03/13

Marco Rubio admits that those who know support amnesty will fight the "tough" enforcement provisions in amnesty if it passes, but he has no plan to counter-act them. From this (bolding added):

Marco Rubio misleads about options to mass deportations, ignores "self deport" - 04/21/13

Yesterday, Florida senator Marco Rubio tried yet again to mislead, this time by engaging in what's called around here the deportations false choice (see that link for an explanation of that misleading tactic).

Deceptive: Marco Rubio Pretends States Will Enforce Immigration Laws - 04/15/13

On the video below, Marco Rubio pretends that - if the Department of Homeland Security doesn't secure the border as promised under amnesty - states will be allowed to step in. Hasn't he heard of Arizona? The Democrats and others have fought tooth and nail for years to prevent states from enforcing immigration laws. Does anyone in their right mind think they wouldn't do the same this time?

Why the Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund PAC is bogus - 03/29/13

Here are excerpts of an email from the Tea Party "Patriots". Why their group and their new PAC is bogus will be discussed below: Dear Patriot, My name is Jenny Beth Martin. I helped found Tea Party Patriots... ...Please become a charter supporter of the new Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund PAC... ...Through the Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund we are going to beat big-government Republicans in primaries and Obama-loving Democrats in the general election.

2010 donors to Marco Rubio: Club for Growth, Koch brothers, finance, Goldman Sachs... - 02/24/13

For a possible clue to why Marco Rubio does what he does, these were the top 10 donors to his 2010 senatorial campaign (link):

Marco Rubio spox praises U.S. Chamber and AFLCIO colluding on guest workers - 02/22/13

The AFL CIO and the US Chamber of Commerce have reached agreement on three principles for a guest worker program; see that link for the details and what you can do about it is here. Now, from :

Marco Rubio leads smear campaign against anti-amnesty groups FAIR, NumbersUSA, and CIS (Mario Lopez, Alfonso Aguilar) - 02/14/13

From this: A new battle has flared inside the Republican Party in recent days as supporters of more-liberal immigration laws wage a behind-the-scenes campaign to discredit the influential advocacy groups that have long powered the GOP's hard-line stance on the issue.

James Pethokoukis doesn't want you to see this (AEI, Marco Rubio, immigration) - 02/03/13

James Pethokoukis of the American Enterprise Institute doesn't want you to see how he's wrong about immigration. A few days ago, Pethokoukis offered "Is Rubio really about to ruin the Republican Party?" ( ). A comment I left on that post pointing out he's wrong never appeared. Rather than keep you in suspense, here's what Pethokoukis doesn't want you to see [1]:

Delusional: Marco Rubio thinks most Americans - including Hispanic immigrants - will support small government - 01/29/13

On the Rush Limbaugh show earlier today, Marco Rubio discussed the Gang of Eight Senate amnesty plan and made this delusional claim: "People always say to me, 'aren't you worried about the political implications [of amnesty]'?

Senate immigration amnesty framework 2013 - 01/28/13

A "Gang of Eight" senators have released the framework for a comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty) bill. The full text of the framework is below. Who's Involved

Mark Levin wimps out on Marco Rubio's amnesty - 01/27/13

Radio host Mark Levin is potentially a supporter of Marco Rubio's plan to legalize millions of illegal aliens. You need to help make sure that Levin opposes amnesty. The audio below is from an interview Levin did with Rubio on January 23, 2012. After several minutes of Rubio saying nothing new regarding his amnesty plan, Levin finally chimes in around the 8 minute mark:

Questions about immigration reform for Reihan Salam - 01/24/13

Reihan Salam of National Review discusses Marco Rubio's amnesty and comprehensive immigration reform in general here and

Conservative leaders who support Marco Rubio's amnesty (Hannity, O'Reilly, Norquist, Cardenas, Krauthammer...) - 01/22/13

This post will maintain a list of those supposed conservative thought leaders (major pundits, media figures, organization heads, etc.) who support the form of comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty) proposed by Marco Rubio.

Conservative bloggers who support amnesty (Rubio; Hot Air, Morrissey, Johnsen, Loesch, Moran, Mataconis...) - 01/21/13

This post will maintain a list of those supposed conservative bloggers who support some form of comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty), specifically the amnesty proposed by Marco Rubio. This post doesn't list GOP politicians or pundits, just bloggers and other low-level members of the GOP establishment.

Democrats, far-left praise Marco Rubio's immigration moves (NCLR; Sharry; IPC; Obama and Gutierrez spox) - 01/20/13

In a January 18, 2013 press release, Marco Rubio lists some of the supposed conservatives who support his immigration amnesty plan ( ). To be balanced, here are some positive mentions of his plan (or at least support for his actions on comprehensive immigration reform) from those Rubio should be opposing on immigration: the Democrats and the far-left.

Ten reasons Marco Rubio's amnesty isn't conservative (immigration, legalization) - 01/20/13

Florida senator Marco Rubio recently described the outlines of his amnesty plan that would legalize millions of illegal aliens. As previously discussed, Rubio is either delusional, or he's trying to deceive. If you think his plan has any validity, make sure and see that link.

Paul Ryan supports Marco Rubio's immigration amnesty - 01/14/13

On his Facebook page, Rep. Paul Ryan writes [1]: Senator Rubio is exactly right on the need to fix our broken immigration system. I support the principles he's outlined: modernization of our immigration laws; stronger security to curb illegal immigration; and respect for the rule of law in addressing the complex challenge of the undocumented population. Our future depends on an immigration system that works.

Marco Rubio is delusional or tries to deceive on legalization (immigration, amnesty) - 01/12/13

Marco Rubio continues selling out both the GOP and the U.S. with his plans for comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty). See his name's link for his past efforts that have harmed the U.S. and for a discussion of why his immigration ideas won't work.

Marco Rubio smears Republicans who oppose illegal immigration and amnesty, keeps helping the far-left - 12/05/12

Tea Parties darling and GOP savior Marco Rubio frequently sounds just like a Democrat politician when discussing immigration. That includes smearing the majority of Republicans, those who oppose illegal immigration and amnesty.

How Marco Rubio assisted an illegal alien amnesty and hurt the U.S. (DREAM Act) - 12/02/12

The actions of Tea Parties darling Marco Rubio played a significant role in causing Obama's recent amnesty for illegal aliens. Per Julia Preston of the New York Times:

What if Stand Up Florida were smart? (interrupts Marco Rubio at RNC convention; SEIU) - 08/28/12

The video below shows the SEIU-linked group "Stand Up Florida" ("SUF") [1] engaging in dumb behavior during a Marco Rubio speech at the GOP Convention [2]. Five protesters from that group stand up and start shouting assertions, which Rubio deftly handles.

Paul Ryan supports Rubio's DREAM Act Lite amnesty - 08/20/12

From this: (Paul Ryan), who voted against the Obama-backed DREAM Act and has opposed amnesty for most illegal immigrants, said he supported - but hadn't endorsed - the immigration reform efforts of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL).

Claim: Mitt Romney said he won't flip flop on immigration at millionaires' meeting (Murdoch, Blankfein, Home Depot, Univision, Giuliani) - 07/02/12

This is all just hearsay, but it would be interesting if it turns out to be true [1]: Mitt Romney last week told a private group of potential supporters and business and media elites, including Rupert Murdoch, that he was treading carefully around the issue of immigration to avoid looking like a "flip-flopper."

Marco Rubio, Barack Obama, George Bush, Dick Armey read from same script on immigration - 06/27/12

I don't know if some third party writes the lines and talking points that illegal immigration supporters use, but sometimes it certainly seems that way.

Mitt Romney "agrees" with Marco Rubio in some way on anti-American DREAM Act; just how dumb or corrupt is Romney? - 06/15/12

Is Mitt Romney dumb, corrupt, or some combination of the two? Whatever it is, Romney is dumb and/or corrupt enough to come close to caving on the anti-American DREAM Act. If Romney were smart and not corrupt, he'd oppose anti-American bills like the DREAM Act; see the link for how that bill would harm Americans, something you won't hear from the establishment media.

Obama passes DREAM Act by executive fiat; who's to blame; what to do - 06/15/12

The Barack Obama administration has bypassed Congress and passed what amounts to the DREAM Act by executive fiat (link).

Whit Ayres: the GOP pollster trying to weaken Mitt Romney on immigration (Hispanic Leadership Network) - 04/27/12

For several weeks, the establishment media have been printing articles designed to weaken Mitt Romney on immigration, holding out the Hispanic vote as a carrot.

Carl Cannon's corrupt, misleading pitch for Marco Rubio (Real Clear Politics Washington Editor) - 04/01/12

Carl Cannon - Washington editor of RealClearPolitics - offers the corrupt and misleading "Romney Needs a Latino Running Mate -- But Who?" (link).

GOP Sens. Marco Rubio, Jon Kyl, Kay Bailey Hutchison crafting own DREAM Act bills - 03/27/12

From this: Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), the only Senate Republican of Hispanic heritage and a possible vice presidential pick, is working on an alternative version of the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants who came to the country at a young age and serve in the military or attend college...

Questions for Marc Thiessen about Marco Rubio (Washington Post, American Enterprise Institute) - 03/26/12

Marc Thiessen of the American Enterprise Institute writes a column for the Washington Post and this week he offers "The Great Whisperer" (link) about a supposed whispering campaign against

Sens. Bill Nelson and Marco Rubio help deprive Third World of an honor student (also: Frederica Wilson, David Rivera, Ros Lehtinen, Napolitano, Reid) - 03/08/12

On the surface, the story of an illegal alien Florida honor student who was going to be deported but who now has a two year reprieve (link) sounds like a heartwarming tale; good luck finding anyone in the media not presenting it as such.

Marco Rubio promotes immigration policy that's bad for everyone (Michael Scherer, Time) - 02/24/12

Senator Marco Rubio recently supported very bad immigration policy in an interview with Michael Scherer of Time Magazine (link). Per Rubio:

Presente's racial campaign against Marco Rubio (No Somos Rubios) - 01/27/12

Thought experiment: let's say that a Tea Parties group from a heavily-Norwegian-American area of Minnesota had an opponent named Black. Let's say that the Teaparties group came out with a campaign called "We Aren't Black". How do you think the entire political and media class would respond to that?

Marco Rubio changes position on Arizona immigration law, again - 05/17/10

On May 7th, Marco Rubio was asked by Jason Mattera whether he would have voted for Arizona's new immigration law. He stated ( "The second one that passed hit the right note. Yes." Now, he's changed his tune and on Spanish-language TV (link): "The law, how it is now, do you support it, yes or no?" Maria Elvira Salazar asked on Mega TV's Maria Elvira Live. "I don't support states taking this into their own hands," Rubio replied. "I think this needs to be dealt with at the federal level. What I support is the change they made to the law, because that...

David Brooks: this is the Tea Party Decade (the Idiocracy is nigh) - 01/05/10

David Brooks has an extremely fantastic view of the tea party movement (link): The tea party movement is a large, fractious confederation of Americans who are defined by what they are against. They are against the concentrated power of the educated class. They believe big government, big business, big media and the affluent professionals are merging to form self-serving oligarchy - with bloated government, unsustainable deficits, high taxes and intrusive regulation... Over the course of this year, the tea party movement will probably be transformed. Right now, it is an amateurish movement...

Marco Rubio supports attrition, seems to actually oppose amnesty (but: probably still supports massive immigration) - 11/17/09

Speaking earlier today, Florida Senate candidate Marco Rubio supported attrition (enforcing our immigration laws in order to encourage illegal aliens to leave on their own) and made statements that seemed to indicate that he opposes amnesty (aka comprehe