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Marco Rubio (FAQ, amnesty, immigration)

Marco Rubio is a U.S. senator from Florida and a strong supporter of immigration reform, aka legalizing illegal aliens, aka amnesty. In the beginning of 2012 he crafted his own plan to legalize younger illegal aliens, and at the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013 he began working with other politicians to craft a much broader amnesty.

The links after this summary have often extensive discussions of how his immigration plans won't work and will do great harm. Here are some questions and answers about his immigration stance:

Q. Would Rubio's immigration plan harm the U.S.?
A. Yes, his plan would greatly harm the U.S. See comprehensive immigration reform and the other links below.

Q. Is Rubio credible?
A. Not at all. See how Marco Rubio tries to deceive you.

Q. What can I do to help block Rubio's plan?
A. Help me discredit him. Help me discredit or try to turn any leader who supports his plan. See what I do in many of my tweets ( @24AheadDotCom_ ) and help out or do something similar. It's not difficult at all to search Twitter for those remaining few people who support Rubio, and then try to change their minds. In the case of leaders, try to use their support for Rubio to turn their followers against them. Occasionally CC one or two of his workers (list here) so they hear footsteps.

Q. Is Rubio's plan "amnesty"?
A. Yes and no. It's "amnesty" as used in the broad sense that most people use it: to mean a massive legalization program. This page and other posts here use "amnesty" in order to avoid typing "a massive legalization program for illegal aliens" over and over. However, in the formal context or when dealing with Rubio supporters, it's best not to use that term. See reform not amnesty. And, whenever you see Marco Rubio denying his plan is amnesty, recall this video of John McCain doing the same thing.

Q. Would Rubio's immigration plan harm the GOP?
A. Yes: it would create millions more new Democrat voters than Republican voters. See #6 here for more.

Q. Has Rubio aided Obama on immigration?
A. Yes, Marco Rubio greatly helped Obama on immigration.

Q. Who supports Rubio's plan?
A. See the lists of supposed conservative bloggers and supposed conservative leaders, and help discredit them over supporting such a plan.

Q. Who else supports Rubio's plan or at least his moves on immigration?
A. Those include: the Whitehouse, the National Council of La Raza, the New York Times, Frank Sharry (a leading amnesty promoter), and more.

Q. Is Rubio's plan conservative?
A. Not at all. Here are 10 ways it isn't conservative.

Q. Is Rubio's amnesty "humane"?
A. No: see false compassion.

Q. Are there any downsides to legalizing young illegal aliens as Rubio wants to do?
A. That plan has several huge downsides, such as depriving struggling Americans of college. See DREAM Act (the same dynamic applies no matter the details of a specific plan).

Q. Are there better alternatives for the GOP than Rubio's plan?
A. Immigration is one of the areas where the Democratic Party is weakest and what they want to do is least popular. Any Democrat who supports the anti-American DREAM Act could and should be discredited. Rather than discrediting people like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durbin, Rubio came up with his own variation on that anti-American bill.

Q. Are there better alternatives for the GOP than Rubio's plan?
A. Definitely: see attrition.

Last modified Aug 26, 2014
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Marco Rubio aide: some American workers "can't cut it..., can't do it, don't want to do it" (Enrique Gonzalez) - 06/16/13

... from a Ryan Lizza post about Marco Rubio [1]: [Chuck schumer aide Leon] Fresco and [Rubio aide Enrique] Gonzalez helped to unlock the deal with labor and the Chamber of Commerce. The two biggest sticking points were wages for foreign workers (the unions wanted them to be higher) and the objections of the Building and Construction Trades union, which argues that plenty of Americans are looking...

TheTeaParty.net supports immigration reform, secretly met with Jeb Bush (Herman Cain, Home Depot, Teaparty Express, TPNN) - 05/17/13

... he has since shared with Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) and Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), among others. "The purpose of the meeting was to bring the tea party movement into the discussion of immigration," Innis said. "We knew the immigration issue was coming fast down the track and we knew we didn't want to be in complete opposition. "From a policy point of view, it was...

Tea Party fake patriots to help Marco Rubio push amnesty (immigration, Tea Party Express, TheTeaParty.Net, Norquist) - 05/07/13

... leaders are meeting with Sen. Marco Rubio Tuesday afternoon to discuss immigration reform, including a list of what they support – and don’t. In a draft of their seven principles, obtained by POLITICO, the groups make no calls for a ban on “amnesty” – a longtime rallying cry of conservatives grassroots groups. Instead, there’s a tacit acknowledgement that the law will create a new path to...

Marco Rubio admits amnesty supporters will fight amnesty's "tough" enforcement provisions, but has no plan - 05/03/13

Marco Rubio admits that those who know support amnesty will fight the "tough" enforcement provisions in amnesty if it passes, but he has no plan to counter-act them. From this (bolding added): There are also far-left activist groups that see citizenship for illegal immigrants as a "civil right" and will push to water down border security and enforcement measures that are critical to reform's long...

Marco Rubio misleads about options to mass deportations, ignores "self deport" - 04/21/13

Yesterday, Florida senator Marco Rubio tried yet again to mislead, this time by engaging in what's called around here the deportations false choice (see that link for an explanation of that misleading tactic). Per this [1]: I asked Rubio about the word “amnesty” being used by foes, especially on the right, to try to kill his bill. “Amnesty means the forgiveness of things," he replied. "Amnesty...

Deceptive: Marco Rubio Pretends States Will Enforce Immigration Laws - 04/15/13

On the video below, Marco Rubio pretends that - if the Department of Homeland Security doesn't secure the border as promised under amnesty - states will be allowed to step in. Hasn't he heard of Arizona? The Democrats and others have fought tooth and nail for years to prevent states from enforcing immigration laws. Does anyone in their right mind think they wouldn't do the same this time? Watch...

Why the Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund PAC is bogus - 03/29/13

... Pauls, more Ted Cruzes and more Marco Rubios. And fewer John McCains, Lindsay Grahams and Harry Reids! Both Rand Paul and Marco Rubio are strong supporters of legalizing almost all illegal aliens in the U.S. Ted Cruz isn't as bad as them, but he still supports a massive legalization program. See their names' links for much more. Such a massive legalization program (aka comprehensive immigration...

2010 donors to Marco Rubio: Club for Growth, Koch brothers, finance, Goldman Sachs... - 02/24/13

For a possible clue to why Marco Rubio does what he does, these were the top 10 donors to his 2010 senatorial campaign (link): Club for Growth $363,826 Elliott Management $118,648 Senate Conservatives Fund     $105,494 MCM Corp $54,400 Flo-Sun Inc $48,500 Bank of America $35,400 State Farm Insurance $34,582 Crow Holdings $34,500 Goldman Sachs $32,442...

Marco Rubio spox praises U.S. Chamber and AFLCIO colluding on guest workers - 02/22/13

... it." ...A spokesman for Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who is helping lead talks in the Senate, praised the union-business negotiations while also criticizing Obama for not endorsing a guest-worker program. "It's good the unions have recognized there must be a workable visa program for lesser-skilled workers as we reform our legal immigration system," Rubio spokesman Alex Conant said. See Marco...

Marco Rubio leads smear campaign against anti-amnesty groups FAIR, NumbersUSA, and CIS (Mario Lopez, Alfonso Aguilar) - 02/14/13

... taking on the groups, including [Marco Rubio], anti-tax activist Grover Norquist and officials of the Catholic Church, argue that the three organizations are motivated by far different philosophies than many of their Republican allies realize. Among those views: that population growth from increased migration threatens the environment. ...Rubio's aides last week brought one of the organizers of...

James Pethokoukis doesn't want you to see this (AEI, Marco Rubio, immigration) - 02/03/13

... to handle for other hacks. See Marco Rubio for extensive discussions of how his plans aren't conservative, are misleading, and would greatly harm the U.S. Write @JimPethokoukis with your thoughts, and send this page to those who interact with him on Twitter. --------------- [1] In the comment, "the first" is a reference to this claim by Pethokoukis: While immigration reform alone won’t make most...

Delusional: Marco Rubio thinks most Americans - including Hispanic immigrants - will support small government - 01/29/13

... Limbaugh show earlier today, Marco Rubio discussed the Gang of Eight Senate amnesty plan and made this delusional claim: "People always say to me, 'aren't you worried about the political implications [of amnesty]'? I am confident, I really am - and maybe people don't share this confidence - I am confident that given a fair chance, I can convince most Americans - including Americans of Hispanic...

Senate immigration amnesty framework 2013 - 01/28/13

... four Republicans (John McCain, Marco Rubio, Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham) and four Democrats (Charles Schumer, Dick Durbin, Bob Menendez, and Michael Bennet). Summary There's nothing new in their plan: it's simply a slight variant the same old amnesty scam. It's a massive legalization program that has huge downsides and that would do great harm to the U.S. See comprehensive immigration reform for...

Mark Levin wimps out on Marco Rubio's amnesty - 01/27/13

... is potentially a supporter of Marco Rubio's plan to legalize millions of illegal aliens. You need to help make sure that Levin opposes amnesty. The audio below is from an interview Levin did with Rubio on January 23, 2012. After several minutes of Rubio saying nothing new regarding his amnesty plan, Levin finally chimes in around the 8 minute mark: "This is very fascinating to me. I'm going to...

Questions about immigration reform for Reihan Salam - 01/24/13

... of National Review discusses Marco Rubio's amnesty and comprehensive immigration reform in general here and here. Here are some questions based on those posts. The reader is urged to ask Salam these questions in comments, on Twitter (@reihan), and at his personal appearances: 1. You say "[Marco Rubio's] approach reflects core conservatives priorities". Here are 10 reasons Marco Rubio's amnesty...

Conservative leaders who support Marco Rubio's amnesty (Hannity, O'Reilly, Norquist, Cardenas, Krauthammer...) - 01/22/13

... reform (aka amnesty) proposed by Marco Rubio. This post will only list those who've specifically supported Rubio's plan. It won't list those who haven't yet spoken out in favor of Rubio's plan but who can be assumed to support it. See also these other lists: * active GOP politicians who support amnesty (coming soon) * bloggers and other low-level members of the GOP establishment who support...

Conservative bloggers who support amnesty (Rubio; Hot Air, Morrissey, Johnsen, Loesch, Moran, Mataconis...) - 01/21/13

... specifically the amnesty proposed by Marco Rubio. This post doesn't list GOP politicians or pundits, just bloggers and other low-level members of the GOP establishment. There are three audiences for this post: 1. If you already oppose amnesty, you can help block it by working to discredit those listed below to their supporters. You can do that by leaving comments on their relevant posts showing...

Democrats, far-left praise Marco Rubio's immigration moves (NCLR; Sharry; IPC; Obama and Gutierrez spox) - 01/20/13

... January 18, 2013 press release, Marco Rubio lists some of the supposed conservatives who support his immigration amnesty plan ( peekURL.com/zycdzeU ). To be balanced, here are some positive mentions of his plan (or at least support for his actions on comprehensive immigration reform) from those Rubio should be opposing on immigration: the Democrats and the far-left. Speaking only in general...

Ten reasons Marco Rubio's amnesty isn't conservative (immigration, legalization) - 01/20/13

Florida senator Marco Rubio recently described the outlines of his amnesty plan that would legalize millions of illegal aliens. As previously discussed, Rubio is either delusional, or he's trying to deceive. If you think his plan has any validity, make sure and see that link. This post will list the ways that Rubio's plan is not in any way conservative: 1. Rubio's plan would be a massive,...

Paul Ryan supports Marco Rubio's immigration amnesty - 01/14/13

... (for me) step of showing how Marco Rubio's amnesty will not work, Ryan signs on to its general "principles". Is it that Ryan can't figure out what's wrong with plans like Rubio's, or is it that Ryan is too corrupt to care? Ryan also uses the system is broken canard and implies the secure the border talking point; see both links for more. Ryan can't use the legally correct term "illegal alien";...

Marco Rubio is delusional or tries to deceive on legalization (immigration, amnesty) - 01/12/13

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Marco Rubio smears Republicans who oppose illegal immigration and amnesty, keeps helping the far-left - 12/05/12

... Parties darling and GOP savior Marco Rubio frequently sounds just like a Democrat politician when discussing immigration. That includes smearing the majority of Republicans, those who oppose illegal immigration and amnesty. From a report about his speech a Politico event today (link): Rubio said that the [GOP] needs to change the way it talks about immigrants. "We're not talking about plagues...

How Marco Rubio assisted an illegal alien amnesty and hurt the U.S. (DREAM Act) - 12/02/12

... actions of Tea Parties darling Marco Rubio played a significant role in causing Obama's recent amnesty for illegal aliens. Per Julia Preston of the New York Times: ...[Illegal alien and amnesty activist Gaby Pacheco] said she concluded that day that it was time to shift strategies. The House majority would pass to Republicans, who rejected the Dream Act as a reward to immigrant lawbreakers. The...

What if Stand Up Florida were smart? (interrupts Marco Rubio at RNC convention; SEIU) - 08/28/12

... engaging in dumb behavior during a Marco Rubio speech at the GOP Convention [2]. Five protesters from that group stand up and start shouting assertions, which Rubio deftly handles. The much smarter alternative would be for SUF to find a skilled questioner - such as a trial lawyer - to engage Rubio in debate. That questioner would ask tough questions - not just assertions - designed to show why...

Paul Ryan supports Rubio's DREAM Act Lite amnesty - 08/20/12

... immigration reform efforts of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL). "I've been impressed with Marco Rubio's leadership on this issue," he said. "Marco Rubio was on the cusp of introducing the bipartisan solution to immigration problems. President Obama preempted that with what many people think is an unconstitutional move and denied the ability to have a bipartisan solution to these legitimate immigration...

Claim: Mitt Romney said he won't flip flop on immigration at millionaires' meeting (Murdoch, Blankfein, Home Depot, Univision, Giuliani) - 07/02/12

... important, noting he has Sen. Marco Rubio on the trail for him and that one of his own sons speaks Spanish, but indicated he is not going to change positions from some of what he said in the primaries. "I know I took some positions in the primary that are" hard to contend with in a general, Romney said, according to two sources. "I am not going to be a flip-flopper," he added, according to one...

Marco Rubio, Barack Obama, George Bush, Dick Armey read from same script on immigration - 06/27/12

... instance, here are four quotes from Marco Rubio, George W Bush, Barack Obama, and Dick Armey of FreedomWorks all explaining away the inevitability of illegal immigration. Try to guess who said which (answers below): 1. "Many people who come here illegally are doing exactly what we would do if we lived in a country where we couldn’t feed our families. If my kids went to sleep hungry every night...

Mitt Romney "agrees" with Marco Rubio in some way on anti-American DREAM Act; just how dumb or corrupt is Romney? - 06/15/12

... he "agrees" with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who has called for a "long-term solution," and vowed, if elected, to offer "clarity" to immigrants who came here through "no fault of their own" but by their parents' action. Romney ignored shouted questions from reporters, who asked if he would roll back Obama's policy if elected or if he views his Democratic opponents as motivated by politics. Romney...

Obama passes DREAM Act by executive fiat; who's to blame; what to do - 06/15/12

... secretary Janet Napolitano is here. Marco Rubio - author of a "conservative" version of the DREAM Act - comments here. His concern is that it's only a "short term answer to a long term problem" and that Obama went around Congress, not to the fact that Obama just passed amnesty. Who's to blame? As I've said for a couple of years: "if a bear steals your food at night, who are you going to blame,...

Whit Ayres: the GOP pollster trying to weaken Mitt Romney on immigration (Hispanic Leadership Network) - 04/27/12

... a suggestion that he support Marco Rubio's version of the DREAM Act or some form of comprehensive immigration reform, and so on. Are there any circumstances in which you can see the media offering good advice to Mitt Romney? Of course not: the media continues to be what it was four and more years ago: a virtual extension of the Obama campaign. Those media sources offering such articles are what...

Carl Cannon's corrupt, misleading pitch for Marco Rubio (Real Clear Politics Washington Editor) - 04/01/12

... nominate the weak-on-immigration Marco Rubio as his running mate. A previous installment - which is similar to the current in many ways - was offered by Marc Thiessen of the Washington Post less than a week ago. How the current version misleads will be presented below. Consider this excerpt: Although it’s axiomatic that Hispanics are the fastest-growing demographic group in this country, there...

GOP Sens. Marco Rubio, Jon Kyl, Kay Bailey Hutchison crafting own DREAM Act bills - 03/27/12

From this: Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), the only Senate Republican of Hispanic heritage and a possible vice presidential pick, is working on an alternative version of the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants who came to the country at a young age and serve in the military or attend college... "I don't have any specifics...

Questions for Marc Thiessen about Marco Rubio (Washington Post, American Enterprise Institute) - 03/26/12

... supposed whispering campaign against Marco Rubio. In the column he says the following; questions based on this are below: Rubio could help deliver the key swing state of Florida, and as the first Hispanic vice presidential nominee he would give the (Mitt Romney) team a fighting chance with Latino voters. His humble roots and compelling personal narrative could help blunt the class warfare...

Sens. Bill Nelson and Marco Rubio help deprive Third World of an honor student (also: Frederica Wilson, David Rivera, Ros Lehtinen, Napolitano, Reid) - 03/08/12

... young women also met with Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Rep. David Rivera, R-Fla., whose office took the lead working with federal immigration officials on her behalf. Rep. Ileana Ros Lehtinen, R-Miami, who wrote letters to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on their behalf, planned to meet with Pelaez and her sister on Thursday. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, asked the...

Marco Rubio promotes immigration policy that's bad for everyone (Michael Scherer, Time) - 02/24/12

Senator Marco Rubio recently supported very bad immigration policy in an interview with Michael Scherer of Time Magazine (link). Per Rubio: I'm always trying to remind my colleagues that if they lived in Mexico or anywhere in Latin America and their kids were hungry - every night went to sleep hungry - and your country provided no opportunity for you to feed them, you’re telling me that there’s...

Presente's racial campaign against Marco Rubio (No Somos Rubios) - 01/27/12

... isn't even based in reality: Marco Rubio is no Tom Tancredo on immigration, and the Tea Parties are led by loose borders leaders like Dick Armey of FreedomWorks and the Koch family (which funds loose borders groups and whose David Koch donated to the American Civil Liberties Union). Because of such leaders, the Teapartiers have largely ignored immigration since they started. UPDATE: Rubio's just...

Marco Rubio changes position on Arizona immigration law, again - 05/17/10

On May 7th, Marco Rubio was asked by Jason Mattera whether he would have voted for Arizona's new immigration law. He stated (humanevents.com/article.php?id=36858): "The second one that passed hit the right note. Yes." Now, he's changed his tune and on Spanish-language TV (link): "The law, how it is now, do you support it, yes or no?" Maria Elvira Salazar asked on Mega TV's Maria Elvira Live. "I...

David Brooks: this is the Tea Party Decade (the Idiocracy is nigh) - 01/05/10

... and polished politicians, like Marco Rubio of Florida and Gary Johnson of New Mexico, are unofficially competing to become its de facto leader. If they succeed, their movement is likely to outgrow its crude beginnings and become a major force in American politics. After all, it represents arguments that are deeply rooted in American history. Please compare that with our tea parties summary....

Marco Rubio supports attrition, seems to actually oppose amnesty (but: probably still supports massive immigration) - 11/17/09

... today, Florida Senate candidate Marco Rubio supported attrition (enforcing our immigration laws in order to encourage illegal aliens to leave on their own) and made statements that seemed to indicate that he opposes amnesty (aka comprehensive immigration reform). That's definitely a far better position than that of those in his general network, such as Karl Rove and Jeb Bush. And, it makes more...

Karl Rove donates to Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush neutral. Does that confirm my hunch? - 10/05/09

... challenge by ex-state House Speaker Marco Rubio. While Crist has financially overwhelmed Rubio to date, there are many Republicans -- particularly those in Flordia that are close to former GOP Gov. Jeb Bush -- who have publicly become more comfortable airing their skepticism about Crist in public. One of those Republicans with close ties to the Bush family, Karl Rove, has signaled his...