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Republican Presidential Debate January 8, 2012 (NBC News, Facebook, New Hampshire, Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, Perry, Ron Paul, Huntsman, David Gregory) - 01/08/12
The second worthless GOP debate of 2012 starts today, January 8 at 9am Eastern. This is apparently the first morning debate of this presidential campaign season, but don't expect it to be any different from all the others. You can watch the debate live on Facebook, but it will also be shown on NBC later in the day depending on your location (reportedly the same time slot as Meet the Press).
NETWORK: NBC News
CNN Republican Presidential Debate October 18, 2011 (Las Vegas, GOP, Romney, Cain, Perry, Ron Paul, Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum) - 10/18/11
Tonight CNN will be conducting yet another of their worthless debates, this time a GOP debate in Las Vegas in conjunction with the Western Republican Leadership Conference (WRLC). Show time is at 8pm Eastern, 5pm Pacific. Feel free to leave comments below before, during or after the debate. This post will be updated after a transcript becomes available.
Tonight Bloomberg and the Washington Post will be conducting yet another worthless GOP debate. Feel free to leave comments below before, during or after the debate. This post will be updated after a transcript becomes available. This debate stands to be just as bad and as much of a public disservice as all the others.
Tonight Fox News will be conducting a GOP debate in conjunction with Youtube, with some of the questions to be asked having been submitted via Youtube. Feel free to leave comments below before, during or after the debate. This post will be updated after a transcript becomes available. This debate stands to be just as bad and as much of a public disservice as all the others, especially considering the involvement of Youtube.
Tonight CNN will be conducting a GOP debate in conjunction with the Teaparty Express organization. Feel free to leave comments below before, during or after the debate. This post will be updated after a transcript becomes available.
Jon Huntsman would still help illegal aliens take college educations from Americans (immigration, George Stephanopoulos) - 05/20/11
George Stephanopoulos interviewed potential presidential candidate Jon Huntsman yesterday; a transcript is here and the quotes are at . In the interview , Huntsman doesn't back down from his previous support for giving in-state tuition to illegal aliens.
As discussed in greater depth on the DREAM Act page, that would allow those illegal aliens to take college educations away from Americans. Whether Huntsman supports the (national) DREAM Act or just state-only versions isn't known; in either case Huntsman would hurt Americans in order to help citizens of other countries.
The pro-American solution would be to encourage illegal aliens to return home via attrition. That would free up college educations and discounts for Americans at the same time as helping the foreign countries from which those illegal aliens came. It would also discourage future illegal immigration.
Huntsman's plan would deprive some citizens of college, would help further braindrain struggling foreign countries, and would encourage more illegal immigration.
George Stephanopoulos: On civil unions and on immigration, no walking away from your past positions?
Jon Huntsman: No. No. I think, in the case of civil unions, I think it's a fairness issue. I believe in traditional marriage. But subordinate to that, I think we probably can do a better job when it comes to fairness and equality. And I don't believe in penalizing the younger generation coming across our borders who have no say whatsoever over their journey and destiny.
They want to integrate into the American system. If they're willing what needs to do be done and work hard, then I think if we're giving them an in-house tuition break, that integrates them into the system, and makes them part of ultimately contributing to our country.
 Needless to say, George Stephanopoulos only asked Huntsman horserace and other light questions and didn't call Huntsman on supporting depriving some citizens of college. Stephanopoulos - probably in an attempt to mislead - referred to "the children of illegal immigrants be able to pay in-state tuition in your state". In fact, the bill Huntsman supported was for those who are themselves illegal aliens, irrespective of the status of their parents.
Obama administration apologizes about Arizona immigration law... to China (Jon Huntsman, Michael Posner) - 05/16/10
It's rare that I link to or agree with Powerline blog, but there you go: link. A couple of days ago, Michael Posner of the State Department was asked the following question at a press conference about human rights talks that State is holding with China:
QUESTION: Did the recently passed Arizona immigration law come up? And, if so, did they bring it up or did you bring it up?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY POSNER: We brought it up early and often. It was mentioned in the first session, and as a troubling trend in our society and an indication that we have to deal with issues of discrimination or potential discrimination, and that these are issues very much being debated in our own society.
As Powerline correctly (!) points out, China has an abysmal human rights record - including the murders of millions of its own citizens - while Arizona is just trying to enforce the immigration laws that the corrupt Obama administration refuses to enforce.
The ambassador to China is former Utah governor Jon Huntsman; his role in this remains unclear but if anyone can find incriminating quotes please leave them in comments in case he decides to run for another office.
Utah House to vote on discounted college educations for illegal aliens; Carol Spackman Moss - 01/20/07
Utah state Rep. Glenn Donnelson has been trying for four years to repeal the Utah law that allows illegal aliens to take discounted college educations from U.S. citizens in his state. Now, the full House will vote on the repeal.
One of those on the other side is Rep. Carol Spackman Moss who is, naturally, a Democrat. She says it shouldn't be such an issue because there are just "less than 200 kids" receiving these discounts. Of course, since there is always a greater demand for educational discounts than there is a supply, that represents 200 discounts that were taken away from U.S. citizens.
Moss said advocates for denying immigrant students favorable tuition rates were in effect deciding their careers, telling immigrants "you can mow lawns" but can't aspire to a professional calling... "Don't end the dream for these young people," she said.
Since the law she supports represents a taking from Americans, perhaps Ross is unclear on which country she represents. As for the first part of her comments, there are only two ways to prevent such unfortunate cases in the future: either completely open the borders and give discounts to anyone, or enforce our laws. The first isn't going to happen and Ross clearly doesn't support the second, so she is clearly making the situation worse.
I urge everyone to try to attend public appearances by Moss, Huntsman, and Shurtleff and ask them very tough questions about their stances.
Opponents of a law that allows undocumented students to pay in-state college tuition are adamant that their efforts to repeal the benefit have nothing to do with racial discrimination and everything to do with encouraging respect for the law.
Illegal immigration supporting Representative Chris Cannon (R-UT) - as detailed here dozens of times - is a real piece of work. And, while it's seemed that way in the past, he might finally be on the way out. As described here, the only endorsements he's gotten are from George Bush, his wife, and (unfortunately) Rep. James Sensenbrenner. Utah governor Jon Huntsman and Senator Orrin Hatch (also pieces of work) have refused to endorse him, and he was forced to remove a link to the Minuteman Project from his website because it looked too much like an endorsement. And, the Salt Lake Tribune has endorsed his opponent.
Unfortunately, his Democratic opponent Christian Burridge has this to say:
We need comprehensive immigration reform. This means strict enforcement of illegal hiring practices. Also, employers should have access to Internet-based technology to verify the identity of those they hire. When we get unlawful activity out in the open it is easier to regulate and enforce our borders.
"Comprehensive" reform means a bit more than that: it's simply a code word for a massive illegal alien amnesty.
Nevertheless, it might be better if a Democrat pushes the same thing that Cannon would push, and it would certainly be a good thing if Cannon is no longer in Congress.
The Western Governors Association on Tuesday called on Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform including a temporary guest worker program.UPDATE: As you might expect, it's even worse than the blurb suggests. Utah's "Republican" governor Jon Huntsman is working with Arizona's Janet Napolitano on the "guest" worker scheme and immigration "reform" in general, and they have demands.
The group that represents 18 western states passed the policy resolution unanimously while meeting at the National Governors Association annual conference...
For instance, they want to avoid creating incentives to emigrate here illegally by... making legal immigration easier. Until such time as we allow a billion or so people to move here, that's not going to work.
They don't want "amnesty", but, then again, all of those who want amnesty claim they don't want what they want. Instead, they want to fine illegal aliens before giving them amnesty. Orwell would be proud.
And, it appears to have been a setup:
Immigration was among the topics President Bush touched on during a Monday morning meeting with governors - possibly in anticipation of today's policy proposal, Huntsman said.I don't know about Napolitano, but I have no qualms about calling Utah's governor un-American:
Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr., Mexico, and illegal immigration
Utah's problem with "American" politicians
For a nice state filled with awesome scenery and generally nice folks, Utah has given us some really unsavory characters politics-wise.
And, of course, Rep. Chris Cannon.
And, there's one other that was mentioned here before just once: "Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr., Mexico, and illegal immigration".
It appears that Utah's new governor, Jon Huntsman Jr., might be on the wrong side as far as Mexico and illegal immigration are concerned.
Although he's "defied" Bush's No Child Left Behind Act, he appears to be in lock-step with Our Leader on the U.S. sovereignty and massive illegal immigration issue.
Today's "Fox says he's coming to Utah" describes a Huntsman visit to Mexico. The gov. is giddy over the prospect of a Vicente Fox visit, hoping that it's sooner rather than later. Apparently the gov. has a "Utah-Mexico Alliance for Prosperity" plan which will involve more direct flights as well as more ties between that Third World country and First World Utah.
Fox had kind words for Utah's new "driving privilege card system", which gives special driver's licenses to those who are in this country illegally:
"He thanked us for compromising and continuing mobility in our state," Huntsman said.
Well, it's always good when the lider of a corrupt Third World country thanks you for allowing his citizens who are in your country illegally to have driving privileges, isn't it?
Huntsman also supports "immigration reform" and he wants to schedule a summit. There are 200,000 Mexicans in Utah.
Huntsman also spoke to Geronimo Gutierrez Fernandez, who oversees Mexico's chain of consulates.
A similar AP report is here.
As for Huntsman, he appears to be from a rich family with deep ties. His family owns Huntsman Corp., a billion-dollar chemical company that went public recently. And, his father is described here as a friend of
Darth Dick Cheney. And, this long article describes how he was named a trade representative to China by Our Lider Jorge Arbusto.
The political career of another fine American from Utah, U.S. Rep. Chris Cannon, seems to have taken a tumble of late. Let's hope Utahns likewise wake up to Huntsman.