Obama citizenship and birth certificate issue

[NOTE: The summary portion below this note was last updated on March 10, 2009. In the evening of July 27, 2009, the state of Hawaii issued a clear statement claiming Obama was born there, something that they had not said before. Note that those who lied about what Hawaii said on 10/31/08 are still liars; the latest statement doesn't absolve them of that. This summary will be updated at a later point to reflect the new statement. But, please bear in mind that, until the time of the new statement, Hawaii had not said that he was born there and thus those who claimed that Hawaii's 10/31 statement said something other than what it actually said are still liars. See also the large number of posts linked below the summary.

Note also that almost all of our coverage involves the certificate aspect, not the "natural born citizen" aspect. Our primary interest in this issue is a) to try to discredit mainstream media sources and others for lying and misleading about the basic, easy-to-understand facts of the matter, and b) to try to discredit those supposed Obama opponents who have enabled those media and other sources to mislead such as Ed Morrissey of Hot Air. It's possible to both believe everything Obama has said about his past and at the same time point out that a long series of mainstream media hacks have lied about the facts of this issue and use that to discredit them. Those supposed Obama opponents who've spoken out against "birthers" don't have the intelligence to understand that, and wouldn't have the integrity to mention it even if they could understand it.

For an example of our coverage, our first post about this issue was in June 2008 and pointed out that Eli Saslow of the Washington Post lied about the basic facts of this matter; many of the other posts below are similar in that they show how a source lied about objective facts of this issue. Rather than using this issue to help discredit those sources, many supposed Obama opponents showed just how incompetent they are.

The summary as of March 10, 2009 follows, and below that are links to more recent posts.]

Despite what you might have heard, no definitive proof that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii has been provided. The supposed "fact checkers" have not provided definitive proof, and neither has Obama himself.

That does not mean that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. All it means is that we don't know for sure. Those who claim that his birthplace has been definitively proven are basing it on faith and not on facts.

A note of warning: Obama's supporters have been remarkably effective at misleading people about this issue, smearing all those who have questions as conspiracy theorists at the same time as they lie through their teeth.

First, the supposed proof which had been provided as of mid-October 2008 was discussed in this exhaustive overview.

After that was posted, the state of Hawaii supposedly confirmed Obama's birth certificate. However, all they actually did was confirm that he has a valid certificate on file. Those Hawaiian officials did not confirm that he was born in Hawaii. No, really: read their full statement and see if you can find anything in there verifying where he was born.

Note that there's a Hawaii state law that allows those born outside of Hawaii - including in foreign countries - to obtain Hawaiian birth certificates. Read the law at that link. That means that Obama could have been born outside Hawaii and still have a valid Hawaiian birth certificate on file, just as the officials said in their statement. Once again: that doesn't mean that Obama's certificate shows an out-of-Hawaii birth. That just means that the statement from the Hawaiian officials is ambiguous.

In light of that, I contacted the Hawaii Department of Health and asked them to clarify their statement. They refused to do so. Read their reply here.

FactCheck and others claim that those officials verified where Obama was born. Yet, those same officials refused to confirm FactCheck's assumptions. If FactCheck's claims were true, then it would have been just as easy for those Hawaiian officials to confirm FactCheck's claims.

Note also that under Hawaii state law it would be illegal for officials to disclose the contents of a birth certificate, which also includes verifying the contents of a certificate.

Despite that, sources such as FactCheck claim that Hawaiian officials verified the contents of Obama's certificate, something that would be illegal. And, in their reply to me, those Hawaiian officials referenced the fact that it would be illegal for them to verify the contents of a certificate.

In other words, no matter what you hear, where Obama was born has not been verified. Those who say otherwise are lying to you. There are several writers and others who've lied about this issue listed below, and a partial list of politicians who've lied or who are at least spreading disinformation about this issue is here.

If you disagree, here's a challenge: pick up the phone and get the answers to these questions.

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Timothy Egan misleads for Obama (religion, certificate, Limbaugh) - 08/26/10

... observer but simply a hack. See the Obama citizenship page for my extensive coverage, and if you've been programmed to automatically reject any discussion of that topic please take a few seconds and see my angle on this issue. Egan also claims as a fact that Obama is a Christian. In a loose sense he certainly is. However, it's false to claim that we know for a fact that Obama is not a M...

Jeffrey Toobin of CNN forced to correct smears of "Birther" - 08/19/10

... but if others who discuss the Obama citizenship issue were smarter and competent and understood why this issue is important we could get much more meaningful corrections from more powerful people. The backstory: a few weeks ago, CNN's Anderson Cooper interviewed Army Doctor LTC Terry Lakin about his court martial over this issue, which was followed by a segment featuring Toobin claiming: &qu...

Obama attended 3rd grade in two different countries? - 08/09/10

... newtruth as they go along. See the Obama citizenship page for my extensive coverage and if you aren't familiar with my angle please don't jump to conclusions but see this introduction instead.

Shannon Travis of CNN lies about Obama certificate issue - 08/04/10

... contains three lies about the Obama citizenship issue. Now, of course, just because Shannon Travis and dozens of other mainstream media sources have lied and misled about the easy-to-understand facts of that issue doesn't mean that Obama was born outside the U.S.: it just means those aren't reliable sources. (Note: If you aren't familiar with my coverage of this issue, please take ...

Why the Obama certificate issue is vitally important - 08/04/10

... written dozens of posts about the Obama citizenship issue; see them at that link. The reason: because this is a vitally important topic. Does that mean I'm trying to prove that Barack Obama is ineligible for the presidency? No, in fact none of those posts are designed to show that. Rather, the goals include: 1. Encouraging others to acknowledge the fact that Obama has not provided definitive...

State Dep't doesn't have passport records for Stanley Dunham before 1968; conflicting marriage information - 08/02/10

From this: Responding to a Freedom of Information Act request, the State Department has released passport records of Stanley Ann Dunham, President Obama's mother – but records for the years surrounding Obama's 1961 birth are missing. The State Department claims a 1980s General Services Administration directive resulted in the destruction of many passport applications and other "n...

Debate me on the Obama citizenship issue - 07/13/10

If you disagree with me on the Obama citizenship issue, here's your chance to try to show how you think I'm wrong. Leave a comment below presenting a counter-argument to any of the posts at the last link, and I'll reply in comments or in the post with my rebuttal. To summarize, my two basic claims are: 1. While there's an excellent chance that Obama was born in Hawaii as he say...

Ed Morrissey: the Birther's Joe McCarthy (Sharron Angle) - 07/02/10

... engaging in McCarthyism on the Obama citizenship issue. Morrissey says [1]: In the past few days, rumors have swirled that Angle is a crypto-Birther. I asked her “flat out” whether she believed Barack Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii, and she replied, “No. Is that flat-out enough for you?” Angle says she “wasn’t dodging” the caller on the radio show now being parsed by t...

Hawaii elections clerk claims no birth certificate on file for Obama - 06/11/10

From this: A college instructor who worked as a senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008 is making the stunning claim Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State... ..."I had direct access to the Social Security database, the na...

Will Espero "birther bill": might restrict government openness, increase costs (signed by Lingle) - 05/16/10

... government records about the Obama citizenship issue. A few days ago, Linda Lingle signed it into law. You can get a copy of SB2937 by searching at capitol.hawaii.gov, and the meat of the new law is below. The law is not necessary, won't save any government officials any time (and might even increase their workload), and is a step towards a less accountable government. And, it covers all rel...

BBC lies about Obama certificate issue - 05/16/10

The BBC offers "Hawaii blocks repeat requests for Obama birth records" (news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8680916.stm) about that state's new law. In the article, they explicitly state, "Mr Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii in 1961". However, that's then followed by two outright lies about the basic, easily-understood, indisputable facts of this matter: The state of Hawai...

Anderson Cooper lies about Obama certificate issue - 05/08/10

Questioning the official story of Obama's birthplace is the establishment's version of heresy, and Anderson Cooper - in the role of an Inquisition interrogator - yesterday interviewed Lt. Col. Terry Lakin about a lawsuit he's bringing over this issue (video: peekURL.com/v6ojxf9 ). In the segment, Cooper lies and misleads about various aspects of this issue: 1. He consistently referr...

Linda Lingle rewrites history on Obama certificate issue; breaks the law? - 05/06/10

... Linda Lingle is lying about the Obama citizenship issue, rewriting history and pretending that something happened when it didn't. And, she might have broken Hawaiian law. Speaking on WABC radio on Sunday, she said (link to audio here): It's been an odd situation... This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it's one of those issues that is simply a distrac...

Will Dalia Sussman & Marina Stefan of NYT correct their false statement about Hawaiian officials? - 04/22/10

When making a bold statement of fact it's generally a good idea to get all your facts right. Dalia Sussman and Marina Stefan of the New York Times have definitely done the first, but they failed at the second. From "Obama and the ‘Birthers’ in the Latest Poll" [1]: President Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961. A scanned image of his birth certificate released during the 20...

Stephanie Condon of CBS confused about basics of knowledge - 04/15/10

Stephanie Condon of CBS News offers 'Poll: "Birther" Myth Persists Among Tea Partiers, All Americans' (link), in which she shows that she has trouble with basic epistemological issues. She writes: The so-called "birther movement," questioning Mr. Obama's origins, began during his presidential campaign. It has steadily persisted through Mr. Obama's presidency...

Taitz uninvited from tea party event; does Seema Mehta know what a "falsehood" is? - 04/14/10

Seema Mehta of the Los Angeles Times brings word (link) that Orly Taitz has been disinvited from a tea parties event in Pleasanton on Thursday. And, that was done after politicians who were to appear at the event complained. Taitz is a piece of work, so it's perfectly understandable why Carly Fiorina and Chuck DeVore wouldn't want to share a stage with her (even if they say they had noth...

Cristina Corbin of Fox tries to distance Tea Party from fringe "conspiracy theories", gets facts wrong - 04/12/10

... copies of it online. See the Obama citizenship page for the facts. Hawaii has released two statements, one on 10/31/08 and the other on 7/27/09. The second, of course, was after the election and not before as Corbin states. Further, her use of "copy" is highly misleading since Hawaii admits that they never authenticated the picture shown on Obama's website (or shown by FactCheck)....

NPR described Obama as "Kenyan-born", then later posts correction - 04/09/10

... among us to rightthink about the Obama citizenship issue.

Michelle Obama: Kenya is Barack Obama's "home country" - 04/04/10

... outlined in the posts on the Obama citizenship page: to discredit those who've lied about the basic, objective, easily-understood facts of this matter. Dozens of mainstream media sources and the like have shown that they're liars and that they don't understand basic logic, but so far I'm the only person trying to hold them accountable. [1] That video has an edit shortly after ...

Hawaii considers blocking questions about Barack Obama birth certificate - 03/17/10

... to ignore requests about the Obama citizenship issue. Needless to say, such a move would be cheered by plenty of borderline fascists on the mainland too; they'd like nothing more than for everyone to accept the official story, stop asking questions, and just move on. Such a desire shows, among other things, how incompetent they are.

John McCain misleads about JD Hayworth over "birthers"; HotAir helps - 02/25/10

The video at peekURL.com/v3c14ar is a new John McCain attack ad against JD Hayworth that misleads potential voters, trying to portray Hayworth as a dreaded "Birther". The ad serves the interests of the Democrats [1], thus it's not surprising to see it coming from McCain and being promoted by at least HotAir; please see this discussion of the proper way to handle the "Birthers&q...

Erick Erickson lies about Hawaii's governor; bans "Birthers" and "Truthers" from RedState - 02/12/10

Erick Erickson of RedState offers "Vigilance: I’m Banning Birfers, Truthers, and Groups Affiliated Therewith" [1] (Erickson's lie bolded): We’ve always banned truthers at RedState. Increasingly, we have also banned a number of individuals who think Barack Obama is disqualified from being President because despite the Republican Governor of Hawaii confirming the legitimacy of the...

State of Hawaii releases Frequently Asked Questions about Obama certificate - 01/25/10

The state of Hawaii has released a FAQ about Barack Obama's birth records: link. The page outlines what information they're legally able to release and what they can't and links to their various laws and procedures. The page makes clear that they can't release the specifics of Obama's certificate. In one section they offer "All past statements by the Health Director&q...

Is Barack Obama's real name Steve Dunham? Let's figure that out. - 01/12/10

... defenders accountable. See the Obama citizenship page for all of my past coverage. [1] On the video at peekURL.com/v7yiz1s from mid-October 2008 you can hear Obama joke: "in the spirit of full disclosure, there are a few October surprises you’ll be finding out about in the coming weeks. First of all, my middle name is not what you think. It’s actually Steve. That’s right. Barack Steve ...

Sarah Palin now "Birther"? Certificate is "fair game"; what her supporters must do - 12/03/09

... who've lied about the facts in the Obama citizenship issue. What I need Palin supporters to do is to find those listed discussing this issue and then in comments on their posts point out to their readers how they lied about the basic facts of this matter. Please do not engage in wild theories, only facts. Point out to their readers that they lied or misled about the basic facts of this matte...

ADL lies, smears in "Rage Grows in America: Anti Government Conspiracies" - 11/18/09

The Anti Defamation League has a new report entitled "Rage Grows in America: Anti‑Government Conspiracies", which contains at least one major lie. And, it's a lie that you probably won't hear anyone else discuss, namely the one in the section about the "Birther" movement (adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/birther-movement.asp): Despite the fact that gove...

Victor Manuel Ramos misleads about Lou Dobbs, far-left illegal immigration supporters - 11/12/09

Victor Manuel Ramos of the Orlando Sentinel offers a round-up of reaction from far-left groups to Lou Dobbs' announcement that he's leaving CNN. The quotes and link to the article are here; the following deals with Ramos' clear bias:

Judge David Carter makes false assumption, rules against Orly Taitz ("Birther" suit) - 10/29/09

... months. See the main page at Obama citizenship, and see this page from over a year ago for more issues with the Fact Check posting. Ask yourself: if this issue is as cut-and-dried as Obama cultists would have you believe, why do those Obama cultists - whether sockpuppets or MSM reporters - have to keep lying about the basic facts of this matter?

Bill Frist helps Huffington Post smear half the Republicans in Tennessee - 10/16/09

The GOP has a problem with the "Birthers", but only in that they're too incompetent or corrupt to figure out how to turn the issue to their advantage or at least minimize its impact. Instead, establishment Republicans and their minor league helpers keep doing the opposite: helping Obama, the Democrats, and the mainstream media at the same time as they hurt their base. The latest exa...

HI AG Mark Bennett "reviewed and approved" Fukino 7/27 statement ("natural born citizen") - 10/01/09

On July 27, Chiyome Fukino of the Hawaii Department of Health released a statement in which she said that Obama was born in Hawaii. One of the curious things about the statement (at the link) is that she claimed to have verified that "Obama... is a natural-born American citizen". She's not a legal scholar and thus wouldn't seem to be qualified to make that determination. But, n...

Lindsey Graham slams Glenn Beck; "Birthers" are "crazy" (The Atlantic's First Draft of History) - 10/01/09

The Atlantic is conducting a corporate-sponsored series of interviews they call the "First Draft of History". Me, I call them EstablishmentHackapaooza. Earlier today, one segment featured Sen. Lindsay Graham being interviewed by Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic (firstdraftofhistory.theatlantic.com/analysis/graham_the_loyal_opposition.php). As could be expected, Graham wasn't exactly...

James Taranto lies, misleads about Obama certificate issue - 09/27/09

... of birth" [1] about the Obama citizenship issue. In the article Taranto lies, misleads, and generally gets things wrong. 1. He says: "The Honolulu Advertiser reported yesterday that Okubo and her boss, Chiyome Fukino, both confirm that Obama’s original birth certificate still exists. Fukino says she has seen it and that the information matches the now-official electronic records refle...

Taitz client says didn't authorize appeal, but is letter to Land legit? - 09/19/09

From this: A letter filed Friday and signed Capt. Connie Rhodes, who filed a complaint Sept. 4 in U.S. District Court that sought to stop her deployment to Iraq by arguing that President Barack Obama can’t legitimately hold office, states that she never authorized her attorney to appeal a Wednesday ruling against her. Additionally, Judge Clay Land - who denied Rhodes’ request and threatened sa...

Judge Clay Land shows pro-Obama bias in dismissing Orly Taitz "birther" suit - 09/16/09

From this: Judge Clay Land - the same judge who earlier dismissed a similar case filed by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook - has rejected another request for restraining order from a medical doctor and Army officer and threatened sanctions against attorney Orly Taitz if she files any future "frivolous" actions with his court. Leaving aside all of the many other issues, Land appears to have cle...

Media Matters lies: Hawaii has not authenticated the certificate on Obama's site (Corsi, Dobbs, FAIR) - 09/16/09

Media Matters for America offers a smorgasbord of smears in "At "hate group" event, Dobbs embraces discredited birther Jerome Corsi" (mediamatters.org/research/200909150042, not bylined): On his radio show -- broadcast from the anti-immigration organization Federation for American Immigration Reform's (FAIR) "Hold Their Feet to the Fire" legislative advocacy even...

Do Obama's birth announcements prove he was born in Hawaii? (Honolulu Advertiser newspaper) - 09/15/09

Shortly after Barack Obama was born, two identical announcements appeared in Hawaiian newspapers announcing his birth. The announcements do not prove he was born there, for the reasons outlined below. (Unfortunately, since many witting or unwitting fans of Obama and the mainstream media are hard of thinking, I'll have to put this in bold up front: that doesn't mean he wasn't born th...

Is Jonah Goldberg now a "Birther"? (in addition to being confused as usual) - 09/11/09

By the very rules established by the Democrats, the mainstream media, and their Republican allies, Jonah Goldberg of the National Review might now qualify as a "Birther". In order not to be a "Birther" - as defined by the aforementioned groups - one must believe to the core of one's being that not only was Barack Obama born in Hawaii, but that he's told the complete t...

Ed Morrissey of HotAir notes GOP problem, but not smart enough to figure out a solution - 09/07/09

Ed Morrissey of HotAir offers "An end to fringe mainstreaming?" (link) in which he worries about the backlash from the Democrats and the MSM over the Van Jones resignation. He also shows that solving problems isn't exactly his forte: ...we can expect the media to hold Republicans to the standards the conservative punditry imposed on Van Jones, and to be a lot more aggressive about i...

Will Hoover explanation: he found an anti-Obama site in January 2006 (magical memory!) - 09/02/09

A January 2006 article from Honolulu Advertiser writer (and Obama defender) Will Hoover claimed that Barack Obama was born in Indonesia. This page has copies of a couple emails Will Hoover sent them about this issue. As he did for the Politifact article, he seems to have an explanation for everything: The story in question was written on deadline more nearly four years ago. The story was not about...

Chris Matthews in 2007: Obama was "born in Indonesia"; "his Islamic background" - 09/02/09

Apparently Chris Matthews is now a "Birther", because on the December 19, 2007 edition of Hardball he said that Barack Obama was "born in Indonesia" and referenced "his Islamic background". That doesn't mean that just because Matthews said it that Obama was indeed born there or is/was a Muslim. However, it does illustrate yet again just how fluid the facts can be...
 
 
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