kirsten gillibrand

Kirsten Gillibrand

Senator from New York state, appointed in early 2009 to replace Hillary Clinton. She's a corrupt hack who had a B grade on immigration matters from NumbersUSA before being appointed and then, in less than two weeks, had flip-flopped and was supporting amnesty, the DREAM Act, and more. See the video of her sell out here.

Last modified Feb 3, 2009
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Kirsten Gillibrand could be better on immigration, but HotAir and others didn't help (Jazz Shaw) - 10/26/13

One of the things you can count on rightwing bloggers doing is to breathlessly describe how things are bad. They aren't actually going to do anything to make things better, but they will give a play-by-play of what's happening.

Kirsten Gillibrand supports anti-American DREAM Act - 12/27/11

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand offers "If the feds can’t pass the DREAM Act, New York state must do its part" [1], a misleading editorial that promotes that anti-American bill.

You won't know it from reading her editorial, but the DREAM Act would let the illegal aliens covered by it deprive some citizens of college, as well as having other negative impacts. See that link for the details.

Dozens of pro-illegal immigration groups were invited to Obama's mini-amnesty rollout and you weren't - 08/25/11

On August 18, Barack Obama's Department of Homeland Security announced an administrative amnesty that could cover 300,000 or more illegal aliens.

Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2011: new amnesty push from Leahy, Menendez, Durbin, Reid, Schumer, Kerry, Gillibrand - 06/23/11

Yesterday the U.S. Senators listed in the title introduced the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2011, this year's version of a major amnesty bill.

"Temporary" Protected Status for Haitian illegal aliens pushed by profiteers (Haiti earthquake) - 01/14/10

[TPS has been approved; see the update below]

Yesterday, Janet Napolitano of the Department of Homeland Security suspended repatriations of illegal aliens from Haiti; that makes some sense as long as it's actually temporary. What doesn't make sense are the calls from some to give "Temporary Protected Status" in the U.S. to Haitian illegal aliens. The word "temporary" is generally a misnomer as that status is renewed over and over.

TPS would be an infected band-aid that wouldn't fix Haiti's structural problems and in some cases would result in importing Haiti's problems into the U.S. It would also result in brain-draining that country of its more energetic citizens, making things easier for corrupt Haitian leaders. These pushing TPS are at root simply self-serving: they're interested in little more than obtaining political power. They're thinking only of themselves instead of trying to solve problems; they're only making the long-term situation worse.

First, Hillary Clinton of the State Department seems to be implying that the Obama administration will grant some form of TPS (link):

"Well, we have, as you know, many Haitian Americans. Most are here legally. Some are not documented. And the Obama administration is taking steps to make sure that people are given some temporary status so that we don’t compound the problem that we face in Haiti."

From Julia Preston of the New York Times (link):

Senators Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, both Democrats, and (Representatives Lincoln Diaz Balart and Mario Diaz Balart) of south Florida, both Republicans, as well as John C. Favalora, the Roman Catholic archbishop of Miami... "If this is not a slam-dunk case for temporary protected status, I don’t know what is," said Kevin Appleby, a spokesman for the bishops. He said the status would allow Haitian immigrants here to work here and send money back to relatives in Haiti trying to recover from the quake.

Appleby's proposal is at heart immoral: he would encourage Haiti to become even more dependent on the U.S. than they already are and he would embed that dependence in their society, instead of encouraging them to develop their own commerce.

The letter from Senators encouraging TPS is here; in addition to Gillibrand and Schumer, the signatories are: John Kerry, Paul Kirk, Jeff Bingaman, Bill Nelson, Dick Durbin, Frank Lautenberg, Chris Dodd, Bob Menendez, Pat Leahy, Dianne Feinstein, Tom Harkin, Bob Casey, and Bernie Sanders.

From NC Aizenman of the Washington Post (link):

(The Florida politicians including Ileana Ros Lehtinen) are among several leaders holding separate news conferences in Miami on Thursday to draw further attention to the issue. Others include the head of the Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, who will be accompanied by Edwidge Danticat, a celebrated Haitian author and winner of a MacArthur Fellow "genius" grant. Twenty-six refugee agencies also sent a joint letter Thursday urging Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano to consider TPS for Haitians, and the National Council of La Raza released a statement to the same effect.

That also contains Mark Krikorian seeming to support TPS in this case, as well as this:

"When somebody works here they can support up to 10 times that number back in Haiti. So we're talking about supporting hundreds of thousands of people in Haiti at no cost to U.S. taxpayers," (Steve Forester, a Miami-based advocate with the Institute for Justice and Democracy in Haiti) said.

Obviously, he's either trying to mislead people or he can't think things through. Many or most of the jobs they'd be doing would be jobs that Americans who are drawing unemployment insurance could be doing, and much of the labor those Haitians would be doing in the U.S. would be heavily subsidized.

Per this:

"We are considering all alternatives available to us in extending a helping hand to Haiti," (Alejandro Mayorkas of the USCIS) said. He confirmed those considerations include temporary protected status for Haitians.

And, Reform Immigration for America is also promoting TPS with a petition drive: reformimmigrationforamerica.org/blog/blog/
hatians-need-your-help-and-temporary-protective-status

The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society has joined with several other groups in calling for TPS:
hias.org/en/post/25/hias-urges-grant-temporary-protective-status-

Likewise with Christians for Comprehensive Immigration Reform:
faithandimmigration.org/blog/petitioning-haitian-relief

UPDATE: Richard Lugar, FAIR, Center for Immigration Studies, Casa de Maryland, and Frank Sharry's America's Voice all support TPS, with Dick Lugar saying:

"It is in the foreign policy interest of the United States and a humanitarian imperative of the highest order to have all people of Haitian descent in a position to contribute towards the recovery of this island nation."

See the comments above.

1/15/10 UPDATE: Janet Napolitano has now approved TPS, but only for those illegal aliens who were here on Tuesday. How they'll be able to tell isn't clear; some people will no doubt try to provide fake documentation showing they were here at that time.

NY Daily News conducts immigration hotline with NYIC ("Citizenship Now!") (+Gillibrand) - 04/29/09

Spanish-language TV networks have conducted citizenship drives, and the New York Daily News is now trying to get in on the act (link) by conducting a Citizenship Now! drive featuring a hotline staffed by volunteers from the City University of New York as well as two non-profits: the Legal Aid Society and the New York Immigration Coalition. The first hasn't been covered here, but the second has and their advice was probably politicized to say the least; click their link for past coverage.

The NYDN's coverage admits that many who called were illegal aliens and were interested in amnesty.

UPDATE: Albor Ruiz informs us (link) that Kirsten Gillibrand dropped by their event to promote amnesty:

"Right-sizing America's immigration system is one of the most pressing challenges facing our country, and I am committed to working with the Obama administration to pursue comprehensive reform that treats immigrants fairly and gives them a path to earned citizenship."

E-Verify extended for six-months; Leahy, Reid block five-year extension - 03/10/09

A six month extension for the EVerify program was successfully added to the omnibus spending bill, but an amendment from Sen. Jeff Sessions to extend it for five years was blocked through the machinations of Patrick Leahy.

Kirsten Gillibrand: "family reunification is a core value of America" - 02/14/09

Mark Green and the Huffington Post conducted an interview with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, and as one might imagine, they simply asked puffballs and failed to follow-up (huffingtonpost.com/mark-green/7-days-kirsten-gillibrand_b_166955.html). That includes the part where she said that "family reunification is a core value of America". In fact, such chain migration has only been a core part of our laws since around 1965 (link).

She also continues to think she could solve the eight year legal immigration backlog in six months; see this and this.

The rest of her statement could have been made by any other amnesty-supporting puppet and is included below.

Video: Kirsten Gillibrand caves in to illegal immigration lobby, supports amnesty - 02/03/09

The saga of New York's new senator Kirsten Gillibrand continues. As shown on the video (from ny1.com/Default.aspx?ArID=93243; transcript of her remarks below), she's now fully capitulated to the demands of illegal immigration supporters and says she supports comprehensive immigration reform.

No matter what she wants to call it, "reform" will be seen as an amnesty by millions of people around the world. They'll respond by trying to come here illegally. At the same time, that reform will give even more political power inside the U.S. to the far-left, racial power groups, corrupt business groups, the Mexican government, and other similar groups. They'll use that increased power to allow more illegal immigration and to push for future amnesties.

Please go to one of Gillibrand's public appearances and ask her tough questions about this issue designed to reveal the flaws in her policies. Then, upload video of her response to video sharing sites like Youtube. See the question authority page for some sample questions you can ask.



On the full video, she says she opposed the earlier amnesty attempt because she thought it should have attempted to solve the eight year legal immigrant backlog in six months by hiring enough people; see this and this for the tremendous issues involved there.

She also says she opposed it because she thought the guest worker requirements - two years here, one year back home - was a recipe for failure because if they had jobs there they wouldn't bother to come here in the first place. Instead, she wanted a constantly rolling "guest" worker program where the "guests" wouldn't leave: they'd get a five-year visa which was renewable for another five years, after which they could apply for citizenship.

Here are the relevant portions of her remarks on the full video:
"I think we need immigration reform immediately... it's something that I think has to be on the national agenda this year, and I support an earned path to citizenship...and I support policies to put that in place so that we can have comprehensive immigration reform.

Now, when you use a term like amnesty it's a very divisive term. It's one that no one agrees on what the definition is.

So, you know, my understanding of amnesty is that if you are here undocumented/illegal that the next day you're legal. I think there's enormous consensus on that that is not the most effective way, it's not going to be passed in the House or Senate, but actually an earned path to citizenship is much more reflective of the consensus.

It's exactly what our other Senator supports, an earned path to citizenship. It's what Senator Clinton supported, it's what our congressional delegation supports. So I think by having a view that an earned path to citizenship will be much more effective and something that we can actually pass is the right approach.

...What I hope to do is to encourage the Obama administration to put a comprehensive plan on the table in the first year, because I don't think it should be a political issue... I think if it's something that if people come together and have the benefit of all the information I've had there's enormous room for agreement and there's a lot of common ground that can be developed in both the House and the Senate to get this type of legislation passed now."
Obviously, it was a political issue for her: she did something approaching a 180 after intense lobbying from the New York Times, Hispanic leaders, and other supporters of illegal activity.

UPDATE: As if all the above wasn't enough, from this 2/2 report:
[She] told a group of 16 New York City politicians that she will use the group as a sounding board to help form her immigration policy, Assemb. Peter Rivera said [after the 2/1 meeting].
And, according to this, Gillbrand met with Chung Wha Hong of the New York Immigration Coalition on Monday and expressed regret and admitted that some of her votes were wrong and then agreed to the following demands:
A moratorium on government raids until Congress approves comprehensive immigration reform.

Clearing the backlog of entry applications that have forced immigrant families to wait years to be reunited with relatives, and ultimately reducing the application processing time to six months.

Ensuring the temporary worker program includes a path to citizenship.

Corrupted: Kirsten Gillibrand pledges to push "comprehensive immigration reform"; might oppose 287g - 02/01/09

Remember when I said that new U.S. senator Kirsten Gillibrand might be corrupted? Well, it just happened as earlier today (Sun. 2/1) she met with Latino leaders in New York and has now pledged to push comprehensive immigration reform, aka amnesty [1].

NYT: illegal immigration is "New York's special gift to America" (unhinged anti-Gillibrand editorial) - 01/31/09

The part Mexican-owned New York Times offers the editorial "Listening to Ms. Gillibrand" (link). They're wrong as usual, and they're even more unhinged than usual too. Red-faced with anger at country mouse Kirsten Gillibrand's Upstate ways, they lose it right about here:

Corruptible? Sen. Gillibrand edges closer to immigration "reform", wants to learn more - 01/25/09

I haven't even learned how to spell the name of the new senator from New York State Kirsten Gillibrand and she's already slouching towards comprehensive immigration reform, aka an amnesty for illegal aliens. Per the title of [1], she's changed her tone on immigration, telling television channel NY1 (my/Google translation):

Amnesty is not the correct way to solve the problem... I would do differently, I would control immigration, and I would make sure that anyone who wants to work in this country have a way to legally stay here... I will offer solutions to achieve this...

She's playing word games, the same games that many others play. What she's supporting is some form of guest worker program together with "immigration reform", and the latter will be seen as an amnesty by millions of potential illegal aliens.

They quote Democratic NYS senator Malcolm Smith who met with her yesterday:

"We said that we are a community of immigrants and we hope she understands she has to expand her position on immigration. She said she is willing to do that."

Rep. Gregory Meeks was also at the meeting:

"She told us that the only topic of immigration in his district had to do with agriculture. She now understands that the issue of immigration is much larger and wants to learn more about it."

And, to do that, she'll also be meeting with Rep. Nydia Velazquez, chairwoman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

Whether Gillibrand will be corrupted and will wind up supporting illegal/massive immigration remains to be seen.

[1] impre.com/eldiariony/noticias/principal/2009/1/25/
senadora-cambia-tono-migratori-105356-1.html,

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand immigration stance: tough or just for show? - 01/23/09

The new Senator from New York is Kirsten Gillibrand, and it appears that she might be at least slightly strong on immigration matters. However, just how "flexible" she'll be remains to be seen.