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Ask better questions about illegal aliens receiving healthcare at townhalls

Apparently some of the questions at recent townhalls have been about illegal aliens receiving Obama healthcare. Unfortunately, if the report at [1] is accurate, the questions have been weak and may have actually helped the Democrats rather than revealed what they intend to do. As detailed by Obama himself, the Democrats do intend to give UHC to current illegal aliens by changing their status first. Someone could go from being an illegal alien one day to being on the "path to citizenship" - and eligible for Obamacare - the next. In other words, the Democrats are being deceptive, and those asking questions need to incorporate that into their questions.

And, I need you to contact persons and groups who might be going to townhalls and get them to ask better questions. I've included one sample below, and if anyone can make it more conversational or wants me to edit a question they have for maximum effectiveness, leave a comment.

A better question might go something like this:

"Sen. SoAndSo, at the last meeting you said illegal aliens won't get UHC. But, isn't that because you intend to put them on the 'path to citizenship' first, then give them healthcare? That is, someone could be an illegal alien one day and on the 'path to citizenship' - and eligible to get UHC - the next. Weren't you being deceptive before? You said illegal aliens won't get UHC, but you didn't reveal that's because you're just going to change their status first. Isn't that deceptive?"

You could also "work the crowd" by adding in a brief example of a similarly deceptive magical name change.

UPDATE: Here's another question, based on this. You'll need to do some research first to make sure that it applies, because if it doesn't then you'll make yourself look bad, which isn't what you want to do. Also, make sure and print out the URLs and source text that backs up your claim and have copies available in case the politician tries to pretend it doesn't apply:

"Sen. SoAndSo, on [date], you said that illegal aliens wouldn't be able to get coverage under the House bill. However, now the Congressional Research Service (part of the Library of Congress) says that due to loopholes illegal aliens will be able to get coverage under the House bill. That contradicts what you said before. Rather than asking whether you actually read the bill or not and asking whether you were trying to deceive your constituents or not, let me ask what you intend to do about this. Will you promise right now to push for an amendment that will close all those loopholes and that will guarantee that illegal aliens will not be able to access healthcare under the bill? We'll leave the details up to you about how you do that, but will you in general promise to close those and all the other loopholes?

[1] Daphne Eviatar offers the misleading "Anti-Immigration Activists See Opportunity in Health Care Debate" (washingtonindependent.com/55044/anti-immigration-activists-see-opportunity-in-health-care-debate):

As the heat gets turned up on the health care reform debate, anti-immigrant activists are using the issue to whip up fear and anger toward immigrants, portraying them as a costly and burdensome drain on any taxpayer-supported U.S. health care system. Angry questions about illegal immigrants getting health care at town hall meetings across the country have put many lawmakers on the defensive... At his town hall meeting in Pennsylvania, for example, Democratic Sen. Arlen Specter had to assure protesters that illegal immigrants would not be covered. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has gone out of her way to make that point as well. Sen. Benjamin Cardin (D-Md.) faced similar shouted questions at his town hall forum on Wednesday, and repeatedly emphasized that illegal immigrants are not covered by the House bill. President Obama has also made the point, although it’s not clear that the anti-reform activists have heard it.

Fri, 08/14/2009 - 10:54 · Importance: 4

Fri, 08/14/2009 - 19:19
Fred Dawes
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the big money people need healthcare to take any cost of of business and for race and political reasons the drug dealers in washington will get its evil way with you. we are in a war its not gun time yet but if the political third world and one world people gets its way it will be. a black 26 year old got 16 years for beating to D%^% some old white guy whats next mass Mun#$# Of millions of old under the color of law? note no D Or M word can be used. Monkeys running! "is our government".

Sat, 08/15/2009 - 21:16
Brittanicus

It is time to recruit a mandated E-Verify, a part of the SAVE ACT in the extraction of foreign nationals from any business, throughout the United States. We should also recognize it as a major deterrent against other sections of fraud, against federal, state and other government entitlements. For decades welfare has been involved in fraudulent benefit conversion to individuals or groups. Progressive, modified E-Verify will remove the stigma of some--BUT NOT ALL--corruption in the programs, meant as a safety-net for citizens and permanent residents? This is why parasite businesses that use--cheap labor--have been at the fore-front of nullifying any immigration enforcement program, with the assistance of a many politicians who have been brought and sold with campaign contribution and other questionable monies. Millions of angry voices have caused a remarkable change on the leadership in Washington. Have made them address E-Verify as a positive tool in the minimal arsenal of immigration law enforcement. For once the uppermost politicians have ignored the demands of corporate profiteering because of the deafening vocal blast from an irate population. However, we must not drop our guard for one minute towards those who legislate the laws, as a gap in our armor will bring down upon all taxpayers billions of dollars to support illegal immigrant families. Taxpayers have been the supplier for years without any relief, as corporate welfare recipients--WHO PAY NOTHING--to their upkeep. The fight is far from over as the oncoming months will bring to the capitol chamber another rush towards AMNESTY. Another AMNESTY means even more millions breaking our laws, to take advantage of our plentiful government entitlements. It means overcrowded schools and even more cramming our already saturated hospitals--NOT TO THE MASSES IN THE CRIMINAL PENAL SYSTEM. We are already the deep pockets for illegal immigrant families in the mandatory emergency room. We as a nation can no longer afford to underwrite the poor of other countries, who break our sovereign laws, as the bill is already in the trillions of dollars according to the Heritage foundation. What we need is an orderly recruitment of highly skilled professional engineers and scientists and not those who will become public charges. We must do all we can to reduce illegal immigration. Complete a national two-layer border barrier as originally designed, upgrade the regional police law 287 G federal laws, introduce E-Verify enforcement inspections auditing companies--big and small. Propose a reward to the public who notifies ICE of illegal immigrants in the workplace. No weakening of ICE raids on suspicious businesses around the country. TIME WE TOOK OUR NATION BACK! Keep the politicians feet to the raging fire and call 202-224-3121. All your question answered relating to corruption and lies at NUMBERSUSA AND JUDICIALWATCH. BE AWARE THAT OVERPOPULATION WILL BE AN IRREVERSIBLE ENVIRONMENTAL NIGHTMARE?

Sun, 08/16/2009 - 02:39

"You said illegal aliens won't get UHC, but you didn't reveal that's because you're just going to change their status first." With all due respect, don't be naive. If the senator even allowed you to ask your question (and that is becoming less and less likely as pro-Obamacare politicians are avoiding townhalls or packing the audiences) he/she would deflect your question by saying something like, "It wouldn't be fair to deny people trying to gain citizenship a basic human right." He/She would then move swiftly to someone less contentious.