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"Secure the border"

When someone harps on "securing the border", that's sometimes a clue that they're trying to fool people, as John McCain tried to do. After the border is "secure", some of them will push for an amnesty of some kind. We do need to secure the border, and not all those who harp on securing the border are being deceptive. Their other policies need to be taken into account.

For instance, if they say "secure the border first", you need to find out what's second and make sure it isn't some form of comprehensive immigration reform, aka amnesty.

Last modified Jan 30, 2009
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Greg Orman misleads on immigration using cookie cutter talking points - 09/28/14

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Rand Paul continues to mislead on immigration (amnesty,Bloomberg, Norquist) - 06/12/14

... reform bill because it did not secure the border first. I will only support reform that has border security first as verifiable and ascertained by Congress, not the president. My plan will not give the president the authority to simply declare that the border is secure. It will require yearly votes of Congress to ensure the president doesn't get around the law. My "Trust but Verify" plan will...

GOP "Standards for Immigration Reform": how it's wrong, how it won't work, what you can do - 01/30/14

... they be trusted to do it now? 3. Secure the border is another talking point. The border should be secured, but the GOP means it in the sense of "secure the border first, then legalization". Once again: why didn't they do that in the past, why aren't they just focusing on that now, and how can they be trusted. They even admit they can't be trusted: "a consistent pattern of administrations of both...

Eric Schmitt's strange immigration talking point (Missouri state senator) - 10/17/13

... sources? Note also that Schmitt uses the secure the borders talking point. The video is from a CPAC event in St Louis; the others on the immigration panel the video is from were: Guy Benson, Helen Krieble, Grover Norquist, and a Univision reporter. It's highly unlike that Schmitt or his aides came up with the word "orderly" on their own, so please take a moment and tweet him to ask where they...

Ted Cruz wants to legalize most illegal aliens, double legal immigration, increase H1B cap to 325,000 - 09/29/13

... talking points: system is broken secure the border living in the shadows See each of those links for more information and examples of people like George W Bush and Barack Obama using those same talking points. But, wait, there's more. Cruz wants to eliminate caps that supposedly discriminate against Mexican immigration. On the topic of skilled immigration, he sounds just like Michael Bloomberg...

Catholic College Presidents promote bad, immoral immigration policy (ACCU letter to Congress) - 07/19/13

Yesterday 93 presidents of Catholic colleges and universities sent a letter to all members of Congress demanding that they support comprehensive immigration reform (see the link for the downsides of that plan). I'll quote the letter and then briefly describe how it deceives and promotes bad policy. From the Association of Catholic Colleges and Universities ("ACCU") letter [1]: ...Leaders on...

Questions for Kelly Ayotte about comprehensive immigration reform (amnesty, New Hampshire) - 06/09/13

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Chuck Schumer: don't make border security a "barrier" to giving citizenship to illegal aliens (2013 amnesty) - 01/31/13

Speaking earlier today, Sen. Charles Schumer (D-New York) said this about the plans for comprehensive immigration reform, aka amnesty [1]: "We want the border to be secure. It's more secure than it was several years ago, but it has a ways to go. And different sectors need different types of security. It's a lot different having security in the Tucson sector than off the stretch in Texas, which is...

Paul Ryan supports Marco Rubio's immigration amnesty - 01/14/13

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Mitt Romney wimps out on immigration, again (Univision, "our system isn't to deport people") - 09/20/12

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Elizabeth Emken on immigration: weak, GOP boilerplate (amnesty, California, Feinstein) - 09/10/12

... specifics. 3. Emken appears to support secure the border in the "secure the border first then amnesty" sense discussed at that link. What she means by "comprehensive solution" is some form of comprehensive immigration reform, which is what most people mean when they use the word amnesty. 4. But (you say) she's "not in favor of amnesty". That's because she's playing word games, see reform not...

Democratic Party 2012 platform on immigration: why it's wrong - 09/04/12

The section about immigration in the Democratic Party 2012 platform is below. It only has broad outlines and countless Democratic leaders have repeated these same things many times before. They were wrong then, and the platform is wrong now (see each link for the details): The first thing to note is that the platform includes a quote from an illegal alien praising Obama's actions on immigration....

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Paul Ryan is bad on immigration, find out how much (Mitt Romney VP pick) - 08/11/12

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Ted Cruz keeps saying the same things on immigration (attrition, amnesty) - 07/27/12

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Mitt Romney NALEO speech: ever weaker on immigration (chain green cards, comprehensive reform, guest workers) - 06/21/12

... that we redouble our efforts to secure the borders. That means both preventing illegal border crossings and making it harder to illegally overstay a visa. We should field enough border patrol agents, complete a high-tech fence, and implement an improved exit verification system." Ah, the good ol' secure the border line, with Romney meaning it in the "secure the border first" sense discussed at...

Texas 2012 GOP platform goes "liberal" on immigration (IRCOT, Koch) - 06/09/12

... comprehensive immigration reform. 9. See Secure the Border. They might actually mean it, but the part at that link about "secure the border first" seems to fully apply in this case. 10. Their guest worker program would be open to current illegal aliens: "Applicants with prior immigration violations would only qualify for the program if they paid the appropriate fines". Not only that, but the...

Susana Martinez is bad on immigration, supports amnesty and a DREAM Act plan (Mitt Romney, New Mexico) - 05/15/12

... issue. Martinez also wants to secure the border (in the "first" sense as discussed at the link). She wants to deport criminals, without explaining how she would deport hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens and without explaining why it is that she could deport them but not deport non-criminal illegal aliens. She wants a guest worker program; see the link. Her "guests" going "freely back and...

Mitt Romney now pandering on immigration reform - 04/03/12

... immigration laws step by step, secure the border, improve our legal immigration system, so we can keep people here and welcome people here who will make America a stronger nation," he said. The GOP front runner's comments came at a town hall meeting at the Moore Oil Company after an audience member, noting that his girlfriend would have to return to Spain soon when her visa runs out, asked about...

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... partially the issue discussed on the secure the border page. 10. And, finally, Obama uses the system is broken canard; see the link. See Obama immigration for many of the other ways Obama has attempted to mislead you about this issue. ---------------------- [1] whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/ blueprint_for_an_america_built_to_last.pdf

Rick Perry's unworkable immigration idea: work visas for illegal aliens (John King, CNN, secure the border) - 11/04/11

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2006: Gil Cedillo supports illegal immigration boycott, shills for cheap labor employers - 09/18/11

... respects border security" (see secure the border). Please send him your thoughts: @gilcedillo. He's not that active on Twitter, so send this link and the link to Gil Cedillo to his supporters, others involved in California politics, and reporters who discuss his bills.

CNN Teaparty GOP debate: September 12, 2011 (Rick Perry, Romney, Bachmann, Ron Paul) - 09/12/11

... for Rick to say that you can't secure the border I think is pretty much a treasonous comment. MALE: I didn't hear that. HUNTSMAN: Rick, we can secure the border. We can secure the border through means of fences, through technology, through the deployment of our National Guard troops, we can get it done. In fact, when the elected president of the United States, I would work with you and the other...

Public Religion Research Institute's misleading poll (immigration, DREAM Act, Brookings Institution) - 09/06/11

... result. And, of course, they're using secure the border and they aren't revealing the many downsides of comprehensive immigration reform. As with the DREAM Act, the mainstream media has avoided discussing those many downsides, and PRRI is piggybacking on that disinformation campaign.

George Will, Michelle Rhee, Mel Martinez, Jose Vargas all hype anti-American DREAM Act and mass immigration (Christiane Amanpour) - 07/03/11

... Both Will and Martinez supported secure the border as a sales tactic to sell Americans on amnesty. Will brought up his "line of buses bumper to bumper" article and continues to mislead with deportations false choice. 3. Will (as at the penultimate link) continues to fail to acknowledge his opponents' arguments: "If we are going to import, as we are doing, a portion of Mexico's poverty, and if we...

Newt Gingrich offers false choice, supports incremental amnesty, doesn't challenge CNN for misleading on immigration (GOP 6/13/11 debate) - 06/13/11

... into a "boob bait for Bubba" secure the border plan to send half the Department of Homeland Security to the Southwest U.S. and to presumably use large numbers of National Guard troops on the border. The first is a childish waste of time, the second would make sense just not to the degree that Gingrich presents. And, that's especially the case since the great majority of the problems at the...

With millions unemployed, Ag Secy Tom Vilsack demeans American workers, promotes amnesty, opposes enforcement, uses bogus talking points, opposes eVerify - 05/27/11

... also: * Continue efforts "to secure the borders." * Hold accountable "businesses that break the law by undermining American workers and exploiting undocumented workers." The first is secure the border. The second is what boils down to the immigration wage floor. See both links. Vilsack also used the deportations false choice, saying "The reality is, if you tried to deport all 12 million it would...

Obama misleads about immigration yet again (May 10, 2011 El Paso version) - 05/10/11

... immigration tradition fallacy, and secure the border. How many more can you spot? A (360kb) screengrab of my Twitter feed where I pointed out in real time additional ways he was misleading or promoting bad policies is here. If anyone believed anything Obama said in his speech, leave a comment on this post and I'll try to change your mind. ADDED: Another bogus talking point Obama used is living...

Richard Marosi of LAT pretends: Obama has secured the border so much, Border Patrol agents are falling asleep - 05/02/11

Richard Marosi of the Los Angeles Times offers the sleepy "Plunge in border crossings leaves agents fighting boredom/ Arrests of illegal crossers along the Southwest border dropped more than two-thirds from 2000 to 2010, from 1.6 million to 448,000" (link). The correct title of the false impression the LAT is trying to give would be something like: "Obama has secured the border so much, agents...

Obama misleads on immigration at Facebook; Zuckerberg and incompetent/corrupt GOP, Teaparty leaders help - 04/21/11

... desert to get here (NOTE: see secure the border). Let’s make the legal immigration system more efficient and more effective so there aren’t huge backlogs. This is all part of what we call comprehensive immigration reform (NOTE: See that link for the huge downsides). And there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be able to achieve a system that is fair, is equitable, is an economic engine for America...

Haley Barbour lobbied for Mexican government, now misleads about amnesty - 02/15/11

... amnesty." 1. As it says on the secure the border page, when someone harps on securing the border *first*, you have to ask them what comes next. Thankfully, in his case he's making it clear: some form of legalization program. See #4. 2. He's using the reform not amnesty canard. His "reform" would be perceived by millions of potential illegal aliens as amnesty, no matter what he wants to call it....

Newt Gingrich supports some parts of DREAM Act; supports guest workers; uses false choice; sounds like Hoffenblum - 12/06/10

... other hack, Gingrich supports secure the border: Gingrich said he is in favor of deporting illegals who are gang members or arrested for a felony, and is “committed 100-percent” to enforcement of the US border, noting his past accomplishment as Speaker when he helped enforce the first control of the San Diego border. He also said he committed to having English as the official language of...

Utah Compact would encourage illegal immigration (Mark Shurtleff, Chamber, Sutherland, Catholic Church) - 11/11/10

... "protect our national borders", see secure the border. Their second point: We respect the rule of law and support law enforcement’s professional judgment and discretion. Local law enforcement resources should focus on criminal activities, not civil violations of federal code. In other words, they're against the 287g program. Considering that the Department of Homeland Security does relatively...

Rupert Murdoch testifies for amnesty, massive immigration (using two CAP studies) - 09/30/10

... of amnesty, he throws out the secure the border bone. "While supporting complete and proper closure of all our borders to future illegal immigrants, our partnership (the Partnership for a New American Economy) advocates reform that gives a path to citizenship for responsible, law-abiding immigrants who are in the U.S. today without proper authority..." It is nonsense to talk of expelling 12...

Obama thinks illegal aliens are Americans; forgets about massive unemployment; promotes massive immigration - 09/29/10

... let's secure our borders"; see secure the border. Making a false claim about policy, he thinks if we made legal immigration easier we'd reduce illegal immigration. He ignores the fact that there are about 6.5 billion people outside the U.S. (and about 5 billion of them are poorer than Mexicans). And, a large percentage of those people would come here if they could. So many would want to come...

Sharron Angle is weak on amnesty: won't come out strong against anti-American DREAM Act - 09/18/10

... She appears to now be taking a "secure the border first" posture which begs the question of what exactly she'd support after the borders are secured. If she won't oppose a smaller anti-American amnesty now, exactly what would she support if she makes it into the Senate? Angle was interviewed about various topics yesterday by Bret Baier; a video is at peekURL.com/vxhfdig Comments after the...

Could Obama declare an immigration amnesty by executive order? - 07/30/10

[See the updates too] Back in Feb. 2009 we offered Could Obama and Napolitano enact a mini-amnesty... without Congress? about a scheme cooked up by two immigration lawyers under which the president could in effect give amnesty to large numbers of illegal aliens. Now, some inside the USCIS are proposing their own workarounds and loopholes under which Barack Obama could give thousands (or more) of...

Sharron Angle goes after Reid on issues outside his control, won't press hard on immigration - 07/23/10

... law). She, of course, supports secure the border but so does everyone else. She also says our legal immigration system needs to be streamlined; finding out exactly what she would do would definitely be of interest. Of illegal aliens, she says "it's time for them to go home". Asked how she'd do that, she makes a good argument in support of attrition. She then says that her daughter-in-law is the...