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Jorge Ramos of Univision

Jorge Ramos is the top news anchor on the Spanish-language network Univision. He's lived in the U.S. for about 28 years, and as of 2004 he still retained Mexican citizenship "in case I want to return to Mexico to run for office." However, in 2008 he changed his mind and did obtain U.S. citizenship.

It's not clear whether he was a U.S. citizen in February 2008, when CNN let him ask U.S. presidential candidates questions at a debate. He's also interviewed Barack Obama, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, John Boehner, John McCain, and other U.S. politicians.

Last modified Jul 13, 2011
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Newt Gingrich mocks reality: illegal aliens do self-deport - 01/25/12

During the last debate, Mitt Romney supported a form of what's called "attrition" to reduce the numbers of illegal aliens in the U.S., suggesting that many would self-deport; see the link for a description of that plan. The reaction by many to Romney's use of "self-deport" was more than a bit shocking.

Jorge Ramos became U.S. citizen in 2008 (Univision) - 07/13/11

I've been saying for a while that Univision anchor Jorge Ramos - despite residing in the U.S. for many years - continues to be a Mexican citizen by choice based on a statement he made in 2004. Now it turns out that he changed his mind and my information was out-of-date: Ramos became a U.S. citizen in 2008 (July 11, 2010 CSPAN interview: q-and-a.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1291):

Jorge Ramos: most Californians support Mexico over U.S. in soccer; US is "latinizing" - 06/26/11

Yesterday, the U.S. soccer team faced off against the Mexican soccer team in the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California. The Los Angeles Times headline says it all: "In Gold Cup final, it's red, white and boo again/Mexico rallies for a 4-2 win over U.S. behind overwhelming support at Rose Bowl. In what other country would the visitors have home-field advantage?" [1].

Newt Gingrich considers "draft boards" for immigration (+Jorge Ramos, DREAM Act, sanctuary movement, Michael Scherer) - 05/16/11

Newt Gingrich appeared on the Univision show "Al Punto" yesterday [1] [2], discussed immigration, and showed yet again just how wrong he is on that and related issues:

Obama admits problems caused by mass immigration; panders to illegal aliens; takes foreign citizens' side; opposes non-criminal deportations - 03/29/11

Barack Obama spoke at Bell Multicultural High School in Washington DC yesterday at a townhall conducted in Spanish for the Univision network. The host was anchor Jorge Ramos, a U.S.

Who in the DOJ knew about "gun walking"? (ATF letting guns go to Mexico) - 03/28/11

"Project Gunrunner" was a BATF scheme in which they encouraged gun stores to sell to those who were likely to send the purchased guns to Mexico to be used in that country's drug wars. Two of those guns might have been used to kill Border Patrol agent Brian Terry and ICE agent Jamie Zapata.

The supposed goal of Gunrunner was to trace the guns to Mexico in order to catch the higher-ups, but it apparently had very little success. And, it would be nearly impossible for their not to be a political component. The Obama administration has been harping on guns being sent to Mexico for two years, despite that apparently not being that great an issue. One goal of Gunrunner might have been to save face, and another part might be a component of a larger, anti-gun agenda.

In any case, the question is: who knew about this and who approved it?

Obama claimed in an interview with (Mexican citizen) Jorge Ramos of Univision that neither he nor Eric Holder of the Department of Justice knew about it (link).

However, from this:

In an exclusive interview with CBS News, the lead ATF official in Mexico at the time Darren Gil says somebody in the Justice Department did know about the case. Gil says his supervisor at ATF's Washington D.C. headquarters told him point-blank the operation was approved even higher than ATF Director Kenneth Melson.

"Is the director aware of this," Gil asked the supervisor. Gil says his supervisor answered "Yes, the director's aware of it. Not only is the director aware of it, D.O.J.'s aware of it... Department of Justice was aware of it."

Gil goes on to say senior Justice official Lanny Breuer and several of his deputies visited Mexico amid the controversy last summer, and spoke to ATF staff generally about a big trafficking case that they claimed was "getting good results." Gil says Melson, ATF's Acting Director, also visited Mexico City. Gil's Deputy Attache and his Analyst questioned Melson about the case that surrounding all the weapons showing up in Mexico. "His response was 'it's a good case, it's still going on,'" recalls Gil, "and we'll close it down as soon as we possibly can."

According to justice.gov/agencies/index-org.html, there are only two people higher-up than the ATF Director: Holder, and the Deputy Attorney General. Until February 2010 that was David W. Ogden (link). Since then it's been James M. Cole.

And, per this:

The ATF operates under Justice Department, and two assistant U.S. attorneys in Phoenix authorized virtually every wiretap, affidavit and investigation conducted in Operation Fast and Furious [note: the Phoenix version of Project Gunrunner].

Chuck Grassley tried to obtain information from the DOJ but was apparently rebuffed. Now, Darrell Issa is trying. Tweet him @DarrellIssa and encourage him to subpoena the DOJ if they won't provide the documentation voluntarily.

4/1/11 UPDATE: Issa has now issued a subpoena demanding documents related to Project Gunrunner.

Newt Gingrich supports some parts of DREAM Act; supports guest workers; uses false choice; sounds like Hoffenblum - 12/06/10

The audio below (also at peekURL.com/vkhylh1 ) has Newt Gingrich clarifying his immigration stance to Laura Ingraham. A round-up is here. In the interview, Gingrich supports at least one part of the anti-American DREAM Act:

"I think that it’s legitimate to say, if you’re willing to risk your life for two or three years, serving to protect the United States, we will be willing to consider you for citizenship."

However, he claims to oppose broad programs that would give a "pathway to citizenship", preferring instead the more George W Bush-like approach of a massive guest workers plan. Such a plan would have huge social costs such as are to be found in Germany. And, the children of those "guests" would be U.S. citizens, making it very difficult to deport them. Our "guests" would never leave but instead would stay here as second-class citizens of a sort.

And, he also sounded like Allan Hoffenblum:

Gingrich replied that no election, including the Colorado governor race that saw the openly anti-illegal Tom Tancredo lose to his Democrat rival, has been won on the idea that 11 million people can be deported. This led to a heated argument between the two conservatives, with Ingraham saying that both Republicans and Democrats have “fallen down” in their basic responsibility to enforce the border.

Tancredo supports attrition rather than mass deportations, so Gingrich either doesn't know or lied about Tancredo's position. And, Gingrich engaged in the deportations false choice by failing to acknowledge attrition as an alternative to mass deportations or a legalization program.

And, as with every other hack, Gingrich supports secure the border:

Gingrich said he is in favor of deporting illegals who are gang members or arrested for a felony, and is “committed 100-percent” to enforcement of the US border, noting his past accomplishment as Speaker when he helped enforce the first control of the San Diego border. He also said he committed to having English as the official language of government.

In other words, he does want to deport hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, but he thinks 11 million is too many to deport. And, whether he'd support English only laws is unclear, but it is slightly ironic since Newt Gingrich is promoting bilingualism.

UPDATE: Gingrich's position is even worse. He spoke with Univision's Jorge Ramos (a Mexican citizen) and said (link):

Newt Gingrich: And our very deliberate goal, as with the San Antonio Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, is we’re talking about how can we create a space that is sort of center-right, pro-jobs, pro-entrepreneur but where the entire Hispanic community feels comfortable arguing, talking, and thinking. We’re going to be putting the DREAM Act on that space and we hope to have, before the beginning of the year, with Jeb Bush’s efforts and others, a very lively debate about whether or not we can develop a step by step solution to help everybody in America come out from outside the law and find a way to ultimately have every person in this country living within the law. That’s got to be our goal.

...Jorge Ramos: So if you say, as one of the most prominent Republicans, that you are for immigration reform, you know many Republicans are going to follow you. They are going to follow your lead. Are you for immigration reform?

Newt Gingrich: I am for immigration reform and the person who I think has had the most courageous position in this is Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush is co-author of a report on immigration reform, which is much bolder than the Republicans will be ready to be in Washington, but he moves us in the right direction.

Newt Gingrich launches bilingual The Americano site, outreaches with far-left concepts - 09/22/09

Newt Gingrich has launched a new Spanish-English bilingual website called "The Americano" (theamericano.com). His motivation isn't known; he might be trying to make money, or he might be trying to help himself and the GOP outreach to Hispanics, or both. Whatever the motivation, he's not doing a good turn for the U.S. and he's not working against how the Democrats are able to gain and maintain power.

Obama snubs Fox to discuss domestic policy with foreign citizen (Jorge Ramos, Univision) - 09/19/09

On Sunday 9/20/09, Barack Obama will be appearing on five (5) Sunday talk shows to promote Obama healthcare. One stop he won't be making is at Fox News; Chris Wallace isn't too happy about being snubbed [1] and neither are various GOP leaders [2].

Instead of reaching out to Fox's viewers and deflecting what would assuredly be lightweight questions, Obama will be appearing on Univision's "Al Punto with Jorge Ramos". Ramos is a Mexican citizen who has no interest in becoming a U.S. citizen; he says he might want to run for office in Mexico one day. Despite that, he has no qualms about interfering in our internal U.S. politics, supporting illegal immigration, and opposing assimilation (link, link).

And, at the CNN Democratic debate of February 21, 2008, he was allowed to ask questions of the presidential candidates and CNN did not reveal that he isn't even a citizen of the U.S. Don't expect Obama to do that either.

UPDATE: The Univision interview is at univision.com/content/content.jhtml?chid=3&schid=160&secid=20208&cid=2094409
As could have been expected, Obama said mostly the same thing he's been saying. He said (yet again) that illegal aliens won't be covered under Obama healthcare (without acknowledging the loopholes that would let them be covered and without explicitly mentioning his magical plan to simply legalize them first then give them healthcare). Asked about comprehensive immigration reform, he responded in the same basic way as George W Bush did, saying he was working on it and he's met with leaders but there's no specific timetable. He also referenced that Janet Napolitano was making changes to eliminate the "most negative practices we've seen" (note: from his English to Univision back to English).

And, Ramos - someone who represents Mexican and not U.S. interests - asked Obama why during his last big speech he'd used the phrase "illegal immigrants" rather than "undocumented immigrants" as he'd done during the campaign:

Yo estaba abordando la información errónea aportada por la otra parte que estaba tratando de… asustarnos. Yo esencialmente los estaba citando. Yo dije: "Para aquellos de ustedes que dicen que los inmigrantes ilegales van a tener cobertura bajo este plan, dije que eso no es cierto". Así que estoy usando esas palabras porque estaba yo dirigiéndome a la información errónea que ellos están proporcionando, yo estaba hablando directamente a un público, al pueblo estadounidense, quienes, debido a esta información errónea que le han brindado, en sí, creo que… estaban respondiendo …muy a menudo de una manera muy negativa.

Per Google:

I was addressing the misinformation provided by the other party ... I was trying to scare us. Yo esencialmente los estaba citando. Essentially I was quoting. I said: "For those of you who say that illegal immigrants will be covered under this plan, I said that's not true." So I'm using those words because I was speaking to the wrong information they are providing, I was talking directly to an audience, the American people who, because of this misinformation that you have provided, in itself, I think ... were responding ... very often in a very negative way.

[1] huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/19/snubbed-by-obama-fox-news_n_292254.html
[2] thehill.com/homenews/house/59141-gop-
lawmakers-criticize-obama-for-snubbing-fox-news

Great: Sarah Palin immigration stance magically same as McCain's - 10/22/08

Sarah Palin was recently interviewed by Jorge Ramos of Univision [1], and she repeatedly asked him why he - a citizen of Mexico who has no interest in becoming a U.S. citizen - keeps interfering in our internal politics. She repeatedly asked him why he was allowed to take up valuable time during a CNN debate where he wasn't even identified as a foreign citizen.

Unfortunately, I'm kidding.

Disgrace: CNN Democratic debate February 21, 2008 - 02/21/08

I won't be live-blogging it, but I can tell already that tonight's Democratic debate between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will be a disgrace. Some part of that is due to the fact that one of the questioners is Jorge Ramos of Univision. He's not only a supporter of cultural separatism, he's not a citizen - by choice - despite having lived here for over a decade.

John McCain would sign his own amnesty bill as president; tries co-opting attrition - 01/28/08

Yesterday, Tim Russert asked John McCain:
"If the Senate passed your bill, S.1433, the McCain/Kennedy immigration bill, would you as president sign it?
McCain replied:
"Yeah. But look, the lesson is, it isn't - one, it isn't going to come. It isn't going to come."
Video here.

In other news, McCain is now trying to pretend to embrace the attrition concept, whereby we'd enforce our laws and reduce non-emergency services now to encourage many or most illegal aliens to go home voluntarily. However, he only presents it as a side-effect of an amnesty rather than suggesting it as an alternative to amnesty. And, he's discussing it as yet another attempt to fool people into supporting his amnesty:
[McCain said:] "I would propose, once the borders are secure and the borders stay government-certified, then I would have [a] tamper-proof biometric-document system so that the only people that can work are those who have that. And that would cause many more to leave this country,"

...The program's host, Jorge Ramos, asked Mr. McCain if that meant no legalization program "for the first two or three years," and Mr. McCain seemed to concur.

"I am saying that in the first year or two years at the present pace we can get the border secured, and then we can address the other part of it. The American people want the border secured first, and that is what we have to do," Mr. McCain said, according to an English transcript provided by the network.
In other words, he's just slightly changing tactics in order to get the amnesty that he and those he's linked to want.

It's also quite fitting that, as described at the link above, Ramos is a Mexican citizen by choice despite having lived and worked in the U.S. for over a decade.Yesterday, Tim Russert asked John McCain:
"If the Senate passed your bill, S.1433, the McCain/Kennedy immigration bill, would you as president sign it?
McCain replied:
"Yeah. But look, the lesson is, it isn't - one, it isn't going to come. It isn't going to come."
Video here.

In other news, McCain is now trying to pretend to embrace the attrition concept, whereby we'd enforce our laws and reduce non-emergency services now to encourage many or most illegal aliens to go home voluntarily. However, he only presents it as a side-effect of an amnesty rather than suggesting it as an alternative to amnesty. And, he's discussing it as yet another attempt to fool people into supporting his amnesty:
[McCain said:] "I would propose, once the borders are secure and the borders stay government-certified, then I would have [a] tamper-proof biometric-document system so that the only people that can work are those who have that. And that would cause many more to leave this country,"

...The program's host, Jorge Ramos, asked Mr. McCain if that meant no legalization program "for the first two or three years," and Mr. McCain seemed to concur.

"I am saying that in the first year or two years at the present pace we can get the border secured, and then we can address the other part of it. The American people want the border secured first, and that is what we have to do," Mr. McCain said, according to an English transcript provided by the network.
In other words, he's just slightly changing tactics in order to get the amnesty that he and those he's linked to want.

It's also quite fitting that, as described at the link above, Ramos is a Mexican citizen by choice despite having lived and worked in the U.S. for over a decade.