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Rand Paul smears Americans, incl. playing Nazi card on amnesty opponents (illegal aliens in "concentration camps") - 07/01/13
Just how sleazy and anti-American is senator Rand Paul? On the video below, he says among other things this:
Let's get [the millions of current illegal aliens] work visas, normalize 'em, make 'em taxpayers. They're not goin' home. Even all the crowd that are yelling 'amnesty, that person's for amnesty' are they for sending these people home? Do they want us to put them in concentration camps, on buses, and send 'em back home? I don't think anybody's proposing that.
With millions unemployed, Ag Secy Tom Vilsack demeans American workers, promotes amnesty, opposes enforcement, uses bogus talking points, opposes eVerify - 05/27/11
Secretary of the Department of Agriculture Tom Vilsack held a press conference on Wednesday in which he demeaned American workers, promoted immigration "reform", opposed immigration enforcement, and used a series of bogus immigration talking points.
An account of his remarks is here, with more excerpts at .
1. Vilsack ran down American workers, saying: "While some American citizens step up and take (farm) jobs, the truth is even when farmers make their best effort to recruit a domestic workforce, few citizens express interest. In large part that's because this is hard, tough work." The idea that growers want to recruit Americans is more than a bit dubious; many run down American workers as much as Vilsack. Growers tend to prefer lower-wage, more compliant illegal aliens. And, we sent a man to the moon and won World War II, now Vilsack falsely says that most Americans don't want hard work. That's also more than a bit dubious because a good percentage of those doing farm work are in fact Americans. And, there's the fact that the presence of large numbers of illegal aliens tends to reduce farm wages at the same time as decreasing safety in farm jobs.
The pro-American alternative would be for Vilsack to oppose illegal immigration and push something like this plan to get unemployed Americans working temporary farm jobs until the economy improves. That would answer the labor shortage complaints of farmers, improve working conditions on farms, and would save money overall (considering that most of those unemployed will be getting unemployment insurance and considering the costs of illegal aliens).
2. Vilsack supported comprehensive immigration reform, aka amnesty. See the link for the downsides of that plan .
3. One of the key selling points of immigration "reform" is that it would include stepped-up enforcement. Vilsack seems not to be such a fan of enforcement, saying: "It's difficult to know when someone is documented and when someone isn't. It's difficult when there are efforts at enforcement that basically disrupt not only undocumented folks but also documented … which we've seen in some of the processing facilities." If "reform" passed, does anyone think Vilsack would do a 180 and support "disrupt[ive]" immigration raids?
4. Vilsack used a long list of bogus talking points. The first item above is the jobs Americans wont do canard, but there were several more. From the article:
Reforms would result in "a reliable, legal workforce," said Vilsack. Reforms would also:
* Continue efforts "to secure the borders."
* Hold accountable "businesses that break the law by undermining American workers and exploiting undocumented workers."
Vilsack also used the deportations false choice, saying "The reality is, if you tried to deport all 12 million it would take several hundred years. That isn't practical." See the link for how he tried to mislead.
5. Vilsack also ran down the eVerify program, at least as a standalone solutiion, saying: "The E-Verify system creates a potential difficulty, particularly for smaller businesses... That's because they'd have to invest resources in equipment and training to participate."
"Our concern is that without a legal agricultural guest worker program in place – or without comprehensive immigration reform – you have roughly 500,000 workers out there that, frankly, would be screened out (by) a mandatory E-Verify program. If that happens, the risk of production losses, or production moving outside the country, is very real... If you just put in a mandatory E-Verify program, there's suddenly a huge gap in agricultural that must be filled from somewhere. Otherwise, the crops won't be planted and harvested. That's the reality."
 Vilsack: "There needs to be a comprehensive immigration system that deals with the 12 million people here, many working in our farm fields."
 Vilsack: "I've met farmers and ranchers all over this country who are worried about the broken immigration system... Simply put, our broken immigration system offers little hope for producers trying to do the right thing and make a living...
UFW's anti-American satire: citizens should take illegal aliens' farmworker jobs (Stephen Colbert) - 06/23/10
Take Our Jobs - please.
That’s the message from the United Farm Workers union, which is turning the tables on Congress after years of inaction on comprehensive immigration reform.
Through the campaign, United Farm Workers plans to push members of Congress to make a plea to constituents across the country: Put illegal immigrants out of work by working in the fields and packinghouses.
...The campaign “spotlights the immigrant labor issue and underscores the need for reforms without which the domestic agricultural industry could be crippled,” according to a news release from the United Farm Workers.
In their rush to be as anti-American as possible, they've forgotten that vast parts of America are engaged in various forms of farming, with hundreds of thousands of Americans owning or working on farms. They've forgotten about the Okies and all the other non-Mexicans who've worked farms in California and other states. Apparently they think that illegal aliens from Mexico are genetically predisposed to doing farm work. Or, maybe they think that only illegal aliens from Mexico will put up with low safety standards, long hours, and low pay; in that case one wonders why they'd support that situation.
The pro-American alternative is in this open letter to the Center for American Progress that I sent over a year ago. Of course, that would require immigration enforcement first in order to remove the presence of those who UFW founder Cesar Chavez thought of as scabs. And, I'm sure the UFW will support that.
Note that they'll appear on the Stephen Colbert show on July 8; posting comments with a link to this post in their forums might be a good warm-up so his audience knows which side he's on.
Gary Johnson's immigration position disqualifies him for president or anything else (Our America Initiative, New Mexico) - 06/23/10
Former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson started the "Our America Initiative" last year, possibly as a precursor to a presidential run. He's a libertarian and that means two things: a) he might as well save his donors the money because he's never going to get mainstream support, and b) he's wrong.
How he's wrong about immigration will be discussed below. First, here are two snippets showing his thinking, such as it is:
Paul Krugman exposes "jobs Americans won't do", has "uncomfortable facts about the economics of modern immigration" - 05/28/10
I posted a paragraph of this back in March 2006 when it first appeared, but it's worth revisiting the Paul Krugman column here [see UPDATE] where he exposes the "jobs Americans wont do" talking point for what it is and raises issues with massive illegal immigration, particularly of low-wage workers.
Dave Neiwert channels Karl Rove: supports a race-based, anti-American labor system (hacendados) - 03/22/10
Far-left illegal immigration supporter David Neiwert of Crooks and Liars, in an interview with Roy Beck of Numbers USA, channeled the bugbear of the far-left, Karl Rove, supporting a race-based labor system. In the interview, Dave Niewert supported an anti-American system where Mexican workers would do the tough, dirty jobs while Americans would - paraphrasing - sit on their verandas watching them work, just like the hacienda system popular in countries to the south.
"I don't want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas."
Now, compare that to the comments from Dave Neiwert in the interview:
crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/my-chat-numbers-usas-roy-beck-those. Dave Neiwurt says he worked his way through school doing manual labor, but a couple years afterwards he found out that his old boss had hired all Mexican workers:
"The team I was part of didn't show up for work... [the boss] couldn't find any willing to haul pipe, so he went and go Mexican laborers. They did ten times the job, they were five times more reliable, and they did it all for the same amount of pay."
That statement is not only anti-American in that he's running down American workers. It's also anti-Mexican: he thinks only Mexicans are capable of doing manual labor. Not only that, but he's supporting desperate people working for low wages. But there's more: David Neiwert later sounds exactly like Karl Rove:
I'm telling you... the American Dream is to advance your children... our parents wanted us to go to college, they wanted us to move up in the world.
Please compare that to what Karl Rove said back in 2007: there's no difference at all. Both are supporting the same, anti-American and anti-Mexican system. Or, compare David Niewert's comments to this form letter from a Houston business group:
I work in the construction business in Houston Texas. I am here to tell you that we cannot find enough American citizens willing to labor in the hot sun!
See Beck's comments on the video for more; he was able to present a counter-argument, although he didn't aggressively try to discredit Neiwert as I'd like.
"Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles": pro-amnesty, pro-guest worker fantasy from Robert George - 02/22/10
Robert George of Princeton University, former George W Bush official Alfonso Aguilar, and Alejandro Chafuen (see this) are the founders of the "Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles" (latino-partnership.org), an outgrowth of George's American Principles Project. See this for a recent WSJ article involving their efforts to promote comprehensive immigration reform, aka amnesty.
They say that their group "promotes conservative values and ideals within the Latino community and works to integrate Latinos into fuller and more active participation and leadership in the conservative movement" and George promotes the group on the video at peekURL.com/v4y7iz1 That was posted five days ago and it hasn't exactly set the world on fire: it has just 174 views.
Taking a look at their "Position on Immigration" (latino-partnership.org/Immigration_Position.php), they call for amnesty and guest workers:
1. Strengthen Border Security. We must continue to strengthen border security to combat drug trafficking and discourage immigrants from risking their lives to cross illegally into the country.
This is boilerplate; see secure the border.
2. Prioritize Internal Enforcement. Federal immigration enforcement resources and actions should focus on immigrants involved in criminal activity rather than workplace raids and "audits" that harm both workers and employers.
That is, of course, quite "business friendly". It's also not far from the actual position of the far-left, whether Luis Gutierrez or the American Civil Liberties Union even if some of them hype tough enforcement despite not supporting it. The amnesty that Robert George supports would serve as a huge magnet to encourage more people to try to come here illegally, and if he had his way corrupt businesses could hire them with little risk.
3. Legalize the Undocumented. The vast majority of undocumented immigrants are good, hard working people who are doing jobs Americans do not want or for which there are simply no Americans of working age available. We should establish a path for undocumented immigrants to earn legal status after paying a penalty for having entered the country illegally.
The jobs Americans wont do talking point is even more false and despicable now with massive unemployment. The last sentence would make a mockery of our immigration laws, establishing two channels for coming to the U.S.: the legal variety (for suckers who want to wait a decade or two to even set foot in the U.S.), and the Robert George variety where someone can come here illegally, wait a while (working at one of the companies the George won't raid), and then pay a fee.
4. Create a Guest Worker Program. Immigrants are not competing with Americans for jobs. They are doing jobs that are vital to our economy, but that Americans, for various reasons, are not doing. The economic growth and stability of the nation depends on the capacity of American business and industry to recruit foreign workers as needed. Current work visa quotas are too limited and have been set arbitrarily by Congress. We must create a Guest Worker Program that allows for the entry of foreign workers as the needs of our economy dictate.
The despicable lie in the last section is made more explicit with the lie in the first sentence of this section. About the only job category only done by immigrants is sheepherding; there are Americans working in a vast range of job categories and in every one they're competing against both other Americans and immigrants. Millions of Americans are unemployed, and Robert George would turn his back on them in order to help businesses seeking lower-priced or more malleable foreign labor.
5. Promote Patriotic Assimilation. Immigrants who remain in the U.S. as permanent residents as well as those who become citizens should learn English, learn and identify with the principles upon which our country was founded, and study the basics of U.S history. New Americans’ attachment to the nation and our institutions is essential for the preservation of the social cohesion of our political community.
The last sentence is correct, although that could be argued. What precedes it is could be how things are done now, although it's not clear what sort of testing would be involved (if any) and what he'd do about those who won't assimilate. And, of course, it doesn't answer any questions similar to those raised by Samuel Huntington. Having divided loyalties is an issue even among those in the political sphere such as Martin Sandoval, Juan Hernandez, and Fabian Nunez; they offer no clue about how they'd deal with the hundreds of thousands or millions of foreign citizens inside the U.S. who have little or no loyalty to this country. Confronting that issue would show that they're familiar with this topic and that they want what's best for the U.S. Clearly other things are more important to them.
Because it’s hard to find Americans willing to endure the heat, cold and misery of stooping in the fields - or the low wages - growers overwhelmingly use undocumented workers. An estimated 75 percent or more of the agricultural work force is here illegally. This is bad for everybody. Undocumented workers are easy prey for exploitation and unable to assert their rights. Growers constantly complain about labor shortages and are vulnerable to disruptive immigration raids.
The NYT solution to the problem of "jobs americans wont do" is to import a foreign serf class rather than making changes to farm work - such as mechanization and easier working conditions - where it would be appealing to more Americans. And, through their constant support for illegal immigration, the NYT has played a role in enabling the exploitation they complain about. As for the growers complaining, much of that is simply propaganda that was "planted" into sympathetic news sources; see the crops rotting in the fields entries.
Tamar Jacoby pins immigration "reform" hopes on Obama-induced "reformist mood", bad policy, racialization - 05/07/09
America's favorite immigration "expert", Tamar Jacoby, takes to the pages of the Los Angeles Times with "The immigration debate, again" (link). It contains the usual smears ("there's a danger that populist resentments will curdle into xenophobia", Lou Dobbs and Tom Tancredo are "anti-immigrant" with "inflamed, angry followers") together with things like this:
Neither the economic downturn nor enhanced enforcement has driven 12 million illegal immigrants to leave the country. Enforcement is still far from effective, either on the border or in the workplace.
That "enhanced enforcement" has been just for show; George W Bush had no intention of reducing the numbers of illegal aliens in the U.S. She's not being completely misleading about the "enhanced" part due to the second sentence, but she doesn't reveal to her readers her thoughts on whether truly increased enforcement - together with reduced non-emergency benefits - would reduce the numbers. Obviously, she knows that it would, and that's why she doesn't mention it.
Rosa Brooks to Pentagon; CFR, Soros; her Darwinistic, anti-American immigration policy; journalism bailout - 04/09/09
Former Los Angeles Times columnist Rosa Brooks is going through the revolving door again, this time to be an advisor at the Defense Department, specifically to Michele Flournoy the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy. There's a lot about her not to like; here's just some of it:
3. In her farewell (for now) column, she advocates for a "government bailout of journalism" (link). In addition to various subsidies, she wants to "[use] tax dollars and [grant] licenses in ways that encourage robust and independent reporting and commentary". Anyone who's older than five knows just how narrowly she'd define "robust". For instance, Lou Dobbs probably wouldn't make the cut, not to mention many others.
4. In June 2007, she offered "How immigrants improve the curve" (link). Discussing all the things wrong with it would take too long, but the first thing wrong is her contention that Americans are fat and lazy and that the only solution is giving us (them from her perspective) the competition of bringing in immigrants, whether legal or not.
The second thing wrong with that column is much more troubling and hopefully she'll be called on it one of these days:
And when it comes to illegal immigrants, just getting here takes astounding courage. Illegal immigrants endure astonishing privation and risk - just for the chance to improve their lot by doing the backbreaking work so few native-born Americans have the inclination to do.
It's rare to find anyone promoting the benefits of illegally journeying to the U.S., which frequently involves crossing a dry and either very hot or very cold desert. What Brooks' statement equates to is a Darwinistic immigration policy, where our southern border serves as a way to filter out those not fit enough to come to the U.S.: they die along the way. According to Rosa Brooks, they wouldn't have made good Americans anyway.
Please go to one of her public appearances or similar and point that out to her on video, then upload her response to video sharing sites.
It was a canard fest at Ohlone College in Fremont (Bay Area, CA) on Tuesday as Mexican Consul General Alfonso de Maria y Campos spoke about illegal immigration. All of his statements have been heard many times before from both Mexicans and Americans. And, Angela Woodall of The Argus (part of the ANG Newspapers group) served only as a transcription service. If - and it doesn't seem likely - she asked him any questions, they aren't included in her report.