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GOP "Standards for Immigration Reform": how it's wrong, how it won't work, what you can do - 01/30/14

... longer discussion. 9. Regarding guest workers, what happens when they have U.S. citizen kids? Is the GOP going to seek out and deport termed-out "guests" who've got U.S. citizen children? Today's illegal alien labor and tomorrow's "guests" already "displace or disadvantage American workers": unemployed Americans or those out of the labor market entirely could be encouraged to do jobs that...

Darrell Issa to introduce mass immigration legalization plan for illegal aliens ("halfway" means full amnesty) - 10/23/13

... citizens, those who want to join guest workers programs, and so on. Not only would any type of mass legalization be very bad for the U.S. for various reasons, but Issa's plan wouldn't work as he pretends it would. The Democratic Party would work to undercut the six year period in various ways: lengthening it, reducing any restrictions, and so on. At the same time, the GOP would be what they are...

Ben Powell promotes Red Card plan, H1Bs using shaky economics (immigration, Forbes) - 10/19/13

... Before visas can be issued to guest workers, this program requires potential employers to prove that no native-born workers are willing to take their jobs. But that's almost impossible to prove. As a result, only about 30,000 foreign workers are in the United States under this plan. The need, however, is much greater. The Western Growers Association, for example, has estimated that 80,000 acres...

Jason Stverak misleads about immigration and the free market (Franklin Center, Koch, Krieble) - 10/04/13

... goes on to promote a massive guest workers program: Because the present system merely encourages illegal immigration, Congress needs to consider reform options that would put employers back in the drivers' seat and recast the federal bureaucracy in a supporting role. One idea that merits more discussion is an expansion of the guest-worker program. Often referred to as the "Red Card Solution,"...

AFL-CIO reaches agreement with Chamber of Commerce on guest workers - 02/21/13

... Statement of Shared Principles" on a guest workers program. For the background and what you can do, see "Unions join with bosses in reckless disregard of workers". Here are the relevant portions of today's joint press release: First, American workers should have a first crack at available jobs. To that end, business and labor are committed to improving the way that information about job...

Marco Rubio is delusional or tries to deceive on legalization (immigration, amnesty) - 01/12/13

Marco Rubio continues selling out both the GOP and the U.S. with his plans for comprehensive immigration reform (aka amnesty). See his name's link for his past efforts that have harmed the U.S. and for a discussion of why his immigration ideas won't work. With his latest thoughts, Rubio shows that he's either delusional, or he's intentionally trying to deceive. An interview in the Wall Street...

Very likely Rep. Trey Gowdy will help push immigration amnesty - 01/08/13

... telegraphing support for some form of guest workers program; see the link for the downsides of such programs. Based on my years of experience reading quotes about immigration, Gowdy is as bad as other supposed conservatives who support massive legalization programs, even if he covers it up better. Based on his quotes above, I wouldn't trust him for a second to oppose amnesty. Please write @...

Don't be fooled by Lincoln Club of Orange County's immigration plan (Robert Loewen) - 12/03/12

... such as English proficiency, guest workers would be eligible for a pathway to legal residency, not citizenship. First, the Democratic Party wouldn't agree to that. It's just the reality that the Democratic Party cannot be assumed to have no say in matters, and that's especially true in California. If the GOP proposed such a plan, the Democrats would oppose it and attempt to weaken it. But, just...

Howard Buffett shouts "Viva Mexico!"; supports amnesty and guest workers; enables illegal immigration; wins Mex. govt award - 12/02/12

... illegal immigration, supported guest workers programs, and supported amnesty. And, he capped it off by raising his fist and shouting "Viva Mexico!" (image below) But, wait, there's more: in 2000, Buffett received the highest honor the Mexican government bestows on those who help that government push their agenda outside their country. From this: A lack of recognition of the contribution of...

Mitt Romney wimps out on immigration, again (Univision, "our system isn't to deport people") - 09/20/12

... immigration". * He supported a guest workers program. * He used the tired line about "staple the green card to their diploma". He's used that at least twice before: here and here. See skilled immigration for the downsides of that and related plans. * He supported Marco Rubio's version of the DREAM Act rather than pointing out the problems with such plans (see the link). * He used the system is...

GOP platform supports Arizona-style laws, but includes guest worker program - 08/21/12

... these issues, see: * Arizona * guest workers * attrition (aka "self-deport") * eVerify * Why the Texas 2012 GOP platform is wrong. * Why the Utah Compact is wrong. --------------- [1] peekURL.com/znD3aq5 [2] peekURL.com/zVLDUEE

Mitt Romney NALEO speech: ever weaker on immigration (chain green cards, comprehensive reform, guest workers) - 06/21/12

... all of them, and would support guest workers across the board, both lower-skilled labor to keep chicken processors and growers happy, and H1B increases to keep corporations happy. Whatever the case, that would result in yet more competition for struggling American workers. (UPDATE: also see the RArmant comment below; Romney's use of "states" might mean he'd help states like Utah set up their own...

USDA: millions fewer illegal aliens wouldn't devastate agriculture (farm labor supply economic models, guest workers) - 06/12/12

... scenarios: * One with an increased guest workers program. The increase would be due to changes to the H2A program as mandated by the AgJOBS bill. * One in which the "unauthorized" labor supply has fallen by 5.8 million people. That would be due to the use of eVerify as mandated by the Legal Workforce Act (HR 2885). The vast majority of those the USDA calls "unauthorized" are illegal aliens. Both...

Texas 2012 GOP platform goes "liberal" on immigration (IRCOT, Koch) - 06/09/12

... corrupt businesses. They call for a guest workers program that sounds like the ones George W Bush proposed during his terms in office. And, the group behind the plank thinks (or simply pretends to think) this is good politics, when it will instead just help the Democrats undercut the GOP on this issue. The 2010 platform is in this PDF file (link), and the immigration parts of the 2012 platform...

Mitt Romney already weakening immigration position? - 04/02/12

Laura Meckler of the Wall Street Journal offers some more evidence that Mitt Romney might be weakening his somewhat favorable immigration position in preparation for the general election (link). That would be a very bad mistake not only as a matter of policy, but of politics. If Romney is just Obama Lite on immigration, then no matter how he panders the Democratic Party will be able to undercut...

Newt Gingrich didn't know what 287(g) is; uses loose borders shibboleth (plus the usual immigration speech) - 03/02/12

... constantly-repeated call for a guest workers program. On the positive side, Gingrich didn't oppose 287g once it was explained to him; those who are even worse on the issue would have opposed it. See the entries on Newt Gingrich for long discussions of why his plans wouldn't work. Bolding, notes added: Q: Two little issues I'd like to ask you about. Georgia just passed an immigration bill, and is...

Rick Perry's unworkable immigration idea: work visas for illegal aliens (John King, CNN, secure the border) - 11/04/11

... wonders, at least for a while. See guest workers for additional information. 2. Regarding the bill Rick Perry signed that gave in-state tuition to illegal aliens, Hannity was more truthful in his interview than King. Hannity correctly said the bill was for illegal immigrants; King misled by saying it was for the children of illegal immigrants (the transcript below is incorrect; the video shows...

2006: George Will supports amnesty, guest workers; misleads with false choice; "unlimited" skilled immigration - 07/03/11

... immigration policy. He also supported guest workers and an "unlimited" immigration policy for skilled immigrants (skilled immigration). See all those links. And, by saying "there are no plausible incentives to get the 11 million [illegal aliens] to board the buses", Will is unwittingly admitting that the U.S. has been "settled": millions of foreign citizens live in the U.S. and - despite the...

With millions unemployed, Ag Secy Tom Vilsack demeans American workers, promotes amnesty, opposes enforcement, uses bogus talking points, opposes eVerify - 05/27/11

Secretary of the Department of Agriculture Tom Vilsack held a press conference on Wednesday in which he demeaned American workers, promoted immigration "reform", opposed immigration enforcement, and used a series of bogus immigration talking points. An account of his remarks is here, with more excerpts at [1]. 1. Vilsack ran down American workers, saying: "While some American citizens step up and...

Shurtleff says Feds won't sue Utah over guest worker scheme (from Utah Compact to America's Compact?) - 04/08/11

Utah recently passed a "guest workers" bill that would have them in effect using a Mexican state as an employment agency. One problem from the perspective of the supporters of the bill: the bill appears to be illegal under federal law, meaning that at the least Utah would need some sort of waiver in order to proceed with the scheme. Needless to say, that's not an issue (link with video). Bearing...

Utah gov. Gary Herbert signs "guest" worker, other immigration bills - 03/15/11

... verification. However, signing the guest workers bill is at least a symbolic loss, and it's one that probably could have been prevented if opponents had used something like the question authority plan. One tea parties group had, to their credit, opposed the guest workers plan, although they weren't present at the signing ceremony. There's also this: Asked what was the LDS Church's public...

Utah to start own "guest" worker program, collaborating with Mexican government; Shurtleff; HB466 - 03/02/11

... to start their own state-level guest workers program, and they hope to work with the Mexican government (specifically the state of Nuevo Leon) to do it. This program will almost assuredly reduce wages for Americans in that state, it will probably lead to more illegal immigration (due to the network effect), and it will probably also lead to more mixed status families (i.e., Mexican citizen...

Haley Barbour lobbied for Mexican government, now misleads about amnesty - 02/15/11

... comprehensive immigration reform and guest workers pages for more. But, wait, there's more. Barbour's press office has responded to [1] with this: In their work on immigration issues, BGR [Barbour's lobbying firm] never advocated amnesty for illegal aliens. Barbour's lobbying concerned Section 245(i) of the Immigration Act (link) which involved allowing certain illegal aliens to adjust their...

Newt Gingrich supports some parts of DREAM Act; supports guest workers; uses false choice; sounds like Hoffenblum - 12/06/10

... Bush-like approach of a massive guest workers plan. Such a plan would have huge social costs such as are to be found in Germany. And, the children of those "guests" would be U.S. citizens, making it very difficult to deport them. Our "guests" would never leave but instead would stay here as second-class citizens of a sort. And, he also sounded like Allan Hoffenblum: Gingrich replied that no...

McCain (of course) is soft on DREAM Act; laughs about anti-American plan (trade Americans for illegal aliens) - 09/15/10

... one of his requirements is a guest workers program, and that elicits applause from the audience. McCain encourages them to continue their advocacy rather than pointing out that the DREAM Act lets illegal aliens take college educations away from U.S. citizens. 2. McCain says nothing as an illegal alien presents coming to the U.S. illegally as the only response to domestic violence in her home...

Meg Whitman highlights how much she agrees with Jerry Brown, still misleads about immigration - 07/16/10

... should look across our borders for guest workers who can help American businesses succeed by working here legally, but without full U.S. citizenship. Obviously, with about five workers for every available job, the last thing we have is a shortage of workers. What position would we be in if we had a Whitman-style program now? Would we be able to deport our "guests", or wouldn't the far-left and...

Before donating to Human Rights Watch, ask them about child labor on U.S. farms - 06/02/10

When it comes to immigration matters, far-left organizations love to complain about various downsides of a situation and at the same time support policies that make the situation worse. An example is offered by "Fields of Peril: Child Labor in US Agriculture", a recent report from Human Rights Watch [1]. If you're considering sending them money, please read the following first.

Why Michael Gerson can't be trusted on Arizona's immigration law - 04/28/10

... the busboys canard. See also guest workers. He says: The law forbids the use of race or ethnicity as the "sole" basis for questioning. So what are the other telltale indicators? ...Gov. Jan Brewer, who signed the law, looked flustered when asked during a news conference the obvious question of how illegal immigrants might be identified... Yet Brewer has ordered Arizona police to be trained in...

Sarah Palin goes bogus: "It all comes down to securing the border" - 03/26/10

... information whatsoever. He promotes guest workers and, needless to say, van Susteren doesn't point out any of the downsides. He then launches into how important border security is and, of course, van Susteren doesn't call him on the fact that what he supports would lead to a mad dash for the borders. Then, it's Sarah Palin's chance to discuss the topic, and she implicitly agrees with McCain. She...

Chuck Schumer, Lindsey Graham mislead about their amnesty scheme (3/18/10 edition) - 03/18/10

Senators Charles Schumer and Lindsey Graham - the "dastardly duo" - take to the pages of the Washington Post to offer "The right way to mend immigration", outlining a comprehensive immigration reform scheme they're going to try to push through (link). They provide no details on their plan, and most of what they outline has been discussed in the summary or the links on the reform link above....

Indiana gov. Mitch Daniels on immigration: not good, but not enough information for full picture - 02/26/10

Indiana governor Mitch Daniels is being mentioned as a fiscal conservative, policy wonk Republican candidate for president in 2012. Like most "fiscal conservatives", he appears to support massive/illegal immigration despite the costs involved and despite how it gives even more power to those on the other side from him. There doesn't appear to be much of a paper trail on him, but most of it isn't...

Martha Coakley immigration position: ignored status as DA; supports massive immigration - 01/16/10

... parts of the country", i.e., guest workers. 6. She says "we're always going to have open borders", which doesn't mean what the video claims it means. Unless she went suddenly radical for a few seconds of the tape, she means a safe legal orderly flow of legal immigrants, visitors, and so on. 7. She thinks the Transportation Security Administration could do a better job than indiscriminate checks...

Dan Griswold of Cato peddles more guest workers snake oil (2009 version) - 11/17/09

... incredibly anti- and un-American guest workers program, one that would have reduced previously middle-class wages by flooding the labor market with lower-wage, skilled foreign labor (video here: peekURL.com/vsaprax). Now, Griswold offers "Will Democrats err in immigration reforms?" (link), complaining that in her recent speech Janet Napolitano didn't call for a guest workers program. Griswold's...

Helen Krieble's absurd Red Card "Temporary" Workers "Solution" - 06/23/09

... Armey - has been pushing her own guest workers plan for a few years. Now, apparently she wants to give it yet another try and has come out with the "Red Card" scheme, which is similar to the plan offered a few years ago by Mike Pence. In a word, her plan is absurd: it's divorced from our present reality, completely failing to take into account all the things that could and would go wrong. And,...

McCain won't support union-driven immigration "reform" push; other uncertainties - 04/19/09

Change to Win and the AFL CIO recently joined forces to promote comprehensive immigration reform. Now. per this, John McCain says: "The current plan being developed by the administration and organized labor calls for immigration reform that does not adequately address either securing the border or a legal temporary worker program and is a plan I cannot support... We need to act on the pressing...

Change to Win, AFL-CIO join to push immigration "reform"; ditching big business; labor commission - 04/14/09

... but they also oppose a large guest workers program. This doesn't sit well with the US Chamber of Commerce, whose Randel Johnson says:

Josh Marshall /TPMTV misleads about Michelle Bachmann - 03/24/09

It's apparently open season on Michelle Bachmann [1], so TPM TV - run by Josh Marshall [2] - offers the attached misleading video entitled "The Bachmann Effect". Leaving the other two segments aside, the middle segment takes her comments out of context and shows how little Marshall/TPM understand about immigration issues. The middle segment features part of a debate she conducted with Elwyn...

Mitt Romney's giant, amorphous guest worker scheme? - 02/01/08

As pointed out a few times, it's difficult to find out exactly what Mitt Romney's immigration policy is. In the past, he's hinted at attrition, but as far as I know he's never come out explicitly for it and defined it in the depth that Fred Thompson did. And, earlier today KFI's John & Ken interviewed him about his positions, and they were unfortunately in "nice" rather than "attack" mode and...

Vicente Fox: FTAA common currency (Amero), Hillary for president, Bill Richardson, driver's licenses, lies about heathcare... - 10/11/07

... any I.D. ..FOX: ...[promotes guest workers] ...KING: ...We have an e-mail question from Patricia, Oxnard, California: "Why should the American public have to pay for medical care of illegal immigrants from Mexico? Why shouldn't we be able to bill the government of Mexico for care given to their citizens?" FOX: Patricia, let me tell you that you're not paying for medical care for...

Curt Thompson: Urges Calm and Practicality - 10/03/07

... concerns about low paid legal guest workers with no rights would depress wages for all of us when it's already hard to afford health insurance need to be addressed. We cannot just walk away now when we're this close. We have to keep working on addressing the legitimate issues. This is too important for our children to settle for "good enough" we have to get it right. If we can demand our leaders...