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JD Hayworth recently accepted the endorsement of the anti-illegal immigration group ALIPAC. The John McCain campaign responded as they often do, by supporting the far-left against those who want to enforce our immigration laws. McCain campaign Communications Director Brian Rogers had this to say:
"J.D. Hayworth's lavish praise for the social theories of noted anti-Semite and xenophobe Henry Ford sparked a major controversy during his losing 2006 campaign, causing many Arizonans to question Mr. Hayworth's judgment. It is astounding that Mr. Hayworth would today accept the endorsement of a group that the Anti-Defamation League reports is backed by white supremacists, neo-Nazis and anti-Semites. Mr. Hayworth should immediately disavow this group's support."
1. The Anti Defamation League just can't be trusted; see the link for the details. In this case, the page that Brian Rogers is referencing is adl.org/main_Extremism/White+Supremacists+Promote+ALIPAC.htm, which is simply one big logical fallacy: Guilt by Association. Another of their pages about ALIPAC includes adl.org/civil_rights/anti_immigrant/alipac.asp, which is full of logical errors.
2. Unfortunately, ALIPAC - like many others - doesn't fully understand how to do things; if they did I'd be able to find detailed articles at their site that would discredit both of those articles. Doing that myself would take me about an easy half hour, but I'll leave defending themselves in a logical and effective way up to them. There's a starting point here.
3. Instead, the response that ALIPAC does provide is something that isn't even a tu quoque (link). They point out that McCain was endorsed by a series of racist groups, but the difference is that McCain didn't accept those endorsements. That's comparable to ALIPAC not accepting the endorsements of those like David Duke, but some people won't get that and might think that ALIPAC is comparing themselves to the groups that endorsed McCain.
4. And, of course, McCain is doing again what he's done in the past: side with the Democrats and the far-left against the GOP base. Instead of pointing out that the ADL is fact-challenged and engages in logical fallacies, he treats them like a credible source.
5. If you'd like to do something effective, find an experienced questioner to go to McCain's appearances and call him on this and then upload video of the confrontation to video sharing sites. However, it has to be done in the correct way. If you're in the area and you can arrange that, leave comments on the entries here until I notice you and I'll provide you with some tough questions he'll have trouble with. I know - based on three years' experience - that that's never going to happen, but just in case.
I'm not 100% completely a fan of Lou Dobbs for various reasons, mostly because he doesn't seem that willing to end the careers of some of those he interviews by relentlessly hammering them on their lies. On the other hand, he still has to get guests so I can understand why he might not go for the jugular each time. Nevertheless, a Lou Dobbs candidacy is probably something I would support. And, at the very least, the foaming at the mouth from both "liberals" as well as cheap labor conservatives would be something to see.
On this clip from Rick Sanchez of CNN (youtube.com/watch?v=amMV36RUhFo), he and William Gheen from ALIPAC (link) discuss illegal aliens and legal immigrants serving in the military. After a long cutaway report discussing a legal immigrant with a green card who was fast-tracked for citizenship, Sanchez falsely claims that he was an illegal alien.
The Anti-Defamation League - which apparently at one time did some good, but which is now a far-left Gramscian enforcer and defender of illegal activity - has released a new report entitled "Immigrants Targeted: Extremist Rhetoric Moves into the Mainstream" :
A closer look at the public record reveals that many ostensibly mainstream anti-illegal immigration organizations – including those who testified before Congress or frequently appeared on news programs – promote virulent anti-Hispanic and anti-immigrant rhetoric. Some groups have fostered links with extremist groups.
They list several groups, but as will be shown, their definition of "hate" just can't be trusted. For example, consider this claim:
[Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee/ALIPAC president William Gheen]  also inflames anti-immigrant sentiment by falsely asserting that foreigners bring disease into the nation. During a June 2007 radio interview, he said, "We've got bedbugs back in all, almost all of our 58 [sic] states. We've got TB on the rise, we've got hepatitis, we've got HIV, we've got diseases like Chagas disease, which is a horrifying disease, but also, much like TB, is very, very difficult to treat at all, and it's coming in because of the, the lack of enforcement of our immigration laws and, and the end result is Americans are suffering, Americans are dying."
The ADL's claim that foreigners don't bring diseases into the U.S. is obviously false. And, let's turn to this May 23, 1989 article:
The rising wave of immigration from Central and South America increases the likelihood that Chagas' disease may become more common in the United States, experts said, unless blood banks routinely reject donors born in Central or South America or test their blood.
The source? Why none other than the scare mongerers at the New York Times (link). Finding other sources discussing those various diseases and immigration is left as an exercise. And, of course, immigrants at Ellis Island were checked for diseases, and there are laws on the books regulating immigrants and visitors who have various types of diseases.
Now, it's about to get ironic. Returning to the ADL:
At an August 2007 rally in North Carolina, Gheen stated, "Illegal aliens in this country have set up ethnic cleansing zones, ethnic cleansing zones where if you walk past the wrong sign post, the invisible line, you’re under the threat of death."
Then, let's look at this January 20, 2007 article:
Prudhomme was murdered because he identified himself as black (he was in fact mixed-race) in a neighborhood occupied by one of the many Latino street gangs in Los Angeles County. Incredibly, even though these gangs are fundamentally criminal enterprises interested mainly in money, gang experts inside and outside the government say that they are now engaged in a campaign of "ethnic cleansing" -- racial terror that is directed solely at African Americans.
The source? Brentin Mock, from the Intelligence Report of the Southern Poverty Law Center  .
(The SPLC is, of course, another group that likes to throw the "hate" charge around; perhaps the ADL could call the SPLC a hate group, and the SPLC could respond by calling the ADL a hate group, and then the could both lock arms in battle and fall into the abyss.)
Authorities said the gang specifically tried to eliminate rival African American gangs in South L.A. and the Florence-Firestone area in an effort to "cleanse" the neighborhood. In doing so, they mistakenly harassed and attacked innocent African American residents, according to the indictment.
As has the Guardian (link):
It is a city of violence as a new race war escalates between new Hispanic gangs and older black groups, each trying to ethnically cleanse the other.
If you see any reporters quoting the ADL on this issue, please send them this link.
11/06/07 UPDATE: Janet Murguia helps us discover yet another misleading statement from the ADL; see that link.
And, from the Los Angeles Times' "Latin American scourge turning up in U.S. immigrants/In L.A., nation's first clinic opens to treat deadly insect-borne Chagas disease" (link):
A Los Angeles County hospital has opened the first clinic in the country devoted to studying and treating Chagas disease, a deadly parasitic illness that has long been the leading cause of heart failure in Latin America and is now being seen in immigrant communities in the United States... ...By the end of October, 253 people in 30 states had tested positive for the antibody, according to data compiled by the American Association of Blood Banks. The prevalence nationwide is estimated to be about 1 in 30,000 donors, and about 1 in 7,000 in Los Angeles, said Dr. Susan Stramer, executive scientific officer for the American Red Cross... ...Most donors who tested positive since screening began this year emigrated from high-risk areas, sometimes years ago, or were the children of such immigrants, said the Red Cross' Stramer in an e-mail. But in nine cases still under investigation, Stramer said, infection may have been transmitted by insects in the United States...
 I'm not a member because I'm not a joiner. I also don't think their occasional highlighting of illegal aliens and crime is the right way to fight the issue. However, I don't think they deserve the treatment the ADL gives them.
 splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=722 (same article as )
I'm sure you all remember this classic:
That flyer - showing Texas and Mexico rejoined - was supposedly passed out at the April 9, 2006 illegal immigration march in Dallas. At the time, I wondered whether it was a real poster or a fake.
Now, someone has sent an email to one Sarah from dallasdemocrats.org and says they've received the following reply:
"Yes it is likely one that we produced. I can't seem to get to the part of the site that explains the context of why they showed it though."
Not exactly a full admission, and they might backtrack, but at the very least we can say they haven't disowned it.
Apparently there's been a purge over at FreeRepublic.com and several posters have been banned. Those posters were also opposed to Bush's guest worker program. Did the bannings result from things like posting links to "fringe" sites like VDare.com and TeamAmericaPAC.org, or has FR become just an echo chamber for BushBots? While some of the opinions at VDare are fringe, many are not. And, TeamAmericaPAC is associated with Rep. Tom Tancredo and Bay Buchanan. For point of discussion, what other group of people wants to silence Rep. Tancredo?
Perhaps as a result of these bannings, there are now very few posts concerning immigration at FR. That might be due to other factors, or it might be due to the banning. One of the main posters of immigration articles was gubamyster. He might be busy, or he might have been banned.
FreeRepublic posted ALIPAC's complaint here, generating over a thousand replies.
As for myself, I believe I still have posting privileges, although that might change at any moment.
One of the leading open borders cheerleaders over at FreeRepublic is 'bayourod' who, I believe, has admitted to hiring illegal workers. He - along with others such as Dane or PRND21 - frequently step in to threads about immigration and serve as the unofficial administration spokesperson. Here's a typical bayourod comment, which I noted in this post:
Obviously factually incorrect. Faris sounds like a textbook case of a xenophobe. Since he hates "rich" people who live in gated communities and enjoy golf, he probably is in a lower income class and fears competition from immigrant laborers willing to work longer and harder than him.
As far as I know, bayourod and the other open borders cheerleaders still have posting privileges at FR.
I was temporarily banned in the past, supposedly for posting swear words. They weren't my swear words, they were in a quote from someone else. The moderators didn't respond to my request for clarification in that case, so I don't know exactly what the issue was.
I posted "The Feds threatened L.A. radio station KFI?" at FR in June of last year. Now, one would think this is an important story. After all, if the federal government is threatening media outlets, shouldn't conservatives be concerned? Despite that, it was moved to their "Bloggers & Personal" section, aka the cheap seats. Despite that it got dozens of replies. The first comment to my post explains why it was moved:
The reason your posting on freerepublic was moved is because you posting something that is negative against the Bush Admin. Remember, it doesn't matter if they are conservative, all that matters is they have a R by there name.
And, another thread I posted had its title decorated by a friendly moderator:
Hint: my original post didn't have the "[Barf! MARXIST PROPAGANDA]" bit. And, this story later turned out to be completely true: "Immigration issue yanked off GOP agenda".
To summarize: FR has not yet reached the level of KoolAidCentral, but they're getting closer every day. Take what you read there with a very large grain of salt.
A new PAC has been formed: Americans for Legal Immigration PAC:
Americans for Legal Immigration (ALI-PAC) has formed to address the disparity between the public's desire for more control of illegal immigration and the actions of lawmakers. Varied polls indicate that over 75% of America's legal citizens want more done to control illegal immigration, yet the elected officials who are willing to address this concern constitute a minority of members in the US Congress and Senate at this time. This must change.
Even more alarming is the disparity between our current laws and what is actually happening in the country. Illegal immigration is exactly as the title implies; it's illegal. If three fourths of America's legal citizens want illegal immigration curtailed and laws are in place to facilitate their wishes through a constitutional democracy, then why is America experiencing the largest population increase through illegal immigration in our history?
We are taking action and we need your support. ALI is dedicated to supporting candidates who make illegal immigration reduction a top priority. We are a nonpartisan political action committee and your contributions and membership will go to candidates that will work to reduce illegal immigration. We also plan to educate lawmakers, the media, and the public about the wishes of the vast majority of legal citizens to control illegal immigration and point out the negative impacts illegal immigration is having on our society...
Their founder appears to be a political consultant from North Carolina, but they don't seem to have any widely-known names involved. And, they've just started so their web site is a bit devoid of content. Nevertheless, hopefully they can move this issue forward.