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Zogby poll shows how misinformed Obama's supporters are (and is yet another example of Obama's opponents making mistakes)

John Ziegler - a former KFI talk jock who was pushed out after a dispute with John & Ken - has a video documentary including interviews with Barack Obama supporters showing how ignorant and/or misinformed they are.

His site (link) also includes a Zogby poll he commissioned that tries to show the same thing. Unfortunately, some of the questions that are supposedly true either aren't true or are disputed.

So, it's a two-fer. The poll shows not only how misinformed many Obama supporters are, but also provides yet another example of Obama's opponents making mistakes. See #18 at that list for a point directly relating to this poll.

Note that Obama's supporters will jump all over the mistakes the poll makes in order to blunt its impact. In fact, I'm going to provide a blank update section in expectation of them doing exactly that.

The poll was conducted after the election, with "97.1% High School Graduate or higher, 55% College Graduates". Some of the questions are about Sarah Palin and show that people have bought the MSM/SNL caricature of Palin. And, very few people were actually doing effective things to fight that caricature; see the "mistakes" link above. Let's take a look at some of the Obama questions, like:

82.6% could NOT correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)

The veracity of this question is disputed; I haven't looked into who's telling the truth, but see mediamatters.org/items/200806020007.

88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)

The first part of that is wrong, the second is mostly right (the exact quote was "electricity rates", not "energy rates").

56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).

That question is not entirely correct: Ayers' home was only one of the places, not the exact place. In fact, Obama's surrogates spent a lot of time pointing out that the official location where he started his career was a hotel conference room; see the Lynn Sweet article. In discussing that, I said:

It helps illustrate a problem the McCain campaign has had that the Obama-supporting MSM has tried to drive a truck through. Namely, when speaking about the Bill Ayers-Barack Obama connection they haven't presented the matter in ultra-precise, lawyerly terms.

Obviously, that same inability to figure out the correct way to do things continues with the Ziegler documentary.

Are there any Obama opponents who have both a megaphone and the ability to figure things out?

UPDATE: [space reserved for Obama's supporters using mistakes in the above questions to blunt the impact of the poll.]

UPDATE 2: Zig made yet another mistake, at least on the video. Sarah Palin said you can see Russia from Alaska. In her SNL take-off, Tina Fey changed that to seeing Russia from her "house", and that's how it is in the Zogby poll excerpt provided at the link above. However, on the video he uses the word "home", which is a more general term than "house": Alaska is Palin's "home", and some on the video might have taken it in that sense.

And, in response to the first comment, by "Obama's supporters" I'm refering to the MSM and leftwing bloggers, not necessarily all his supporters.

Politics · Wed, 11/19/2008 - 22:36 · Importance: 4

Tue, 11/18/2008 - 03:52

QUOTE: "Note that Obama's supporters will jump all over the mistakes the poll makes in order to blunt its impact." How can Obama's supporters jump all over the mistakes, when they obviously aren't even informed about who the man is, about his history, and about his agenda and can't answer SIMPLE questions? Are you going to ask for support from the 57 states Obama said he has campaigned in? *SNORT*

Tue, 11/18/2008 - 04:01

When you see exit polls suggesting that Obama won 96+% of black votes...well, it's pretty clear not all of them voted for him because they were well briefed on his policy talking points; Obama definitely had the 'stick it to whitey' vote sewn up. And in one sense, these people were right/did know about him: if you look at Obama's much ballyhooed life as a 'community activist', it's clear he was working pretty much exclusively for the benefit of one 'community'. And regarding the economic pie, it's also pretty clear that benefits accruing to one 'community' won't be accruing to another.

Tue, 11/18/2008 - 17:23
Fred Dawes

I for one can't wait until Obama starts his rule over this so called Nation state. it will be fun to watch the BS Fly up the butt's of all his supporters.

Wed, 11/19/2008 - 14:48

eh, the 96+% of black voters voting for Obama seems like a big deal, until you realize that in 2004, 88% of them voted for Kerry, who last time I checked, wasn't black, and had very few "stick it to whitey" planks in his platform.

Thu, 11/20/2008 - 06:01

@BT I think maybe the motivation was a bit different this time. Judging by the breakdown of the results, one could say it appears that Blacks more or less reflexively vote against Republicans; it's a little hard to believe they have the same degree of enthusiasm for each and every democratic candidate (Dukakis?). This time it was different: they had someone to really vote for. And no doubt to them Obama's talk of redistribution [1] is a form of 'justice'. Anyone who does not think this was a big motivating factor behind a whole lot of black 'stick it to whitey' votes is naive. IMO.

[1] www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

Sun, 11/23/2008 - 21:00
Fred Dawes

Black's vote for black's so what's the big deal? can i ask will obama call on his tribal family of 200 million also be moving into the former white house? and voting for obama the great Kenya guy who now rules "150 million former white"...enslaved people?