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Just how horrific is the Kennedy-McCain amnesty scheme?

That question is answered at this page (or this PDF file) from FAIR's staff attorney Michael Hethmon.

Back in June, FAIR offered to debate Sen. John McCain, and the PDF discloses that they're still waiting for him to set a date.

And, here's the bottom line on their amnesty scheme:
A conservative rough-magnitude tally of the additional amnestied or legal immigrants authorized by S.1033 [Kennedy-McCain] is 36.5 million new permanent residents after eight years
Some other snippets from the first link:
...S.1033 incorporates the worst features of every failed amnesty program since 1986, but in numbers greater than all the illegal and legal aliens who entered the U.S. in the past fifteen years combined...

...S.1033 would both massively increase the numbers of aliens immediately eligible for permanent immigrant status, and significantly reduce the existing waiting time between applying for a visa in the home country and becoming a U.S. citizen, able to sponsor the widest range of derivative relatives.

...The initial phase of the S.1033 amnesty program, the "H-5B visa program," would work essentially like the 1986 amnesty for farm workers, the notorious Special Agricultural Worker (SAW) program. SAW is considered by experts to be perhaps the most fraud-ridden program enacted by Congress in the 20th century... As a rough estimate, about 10 million illegal aliens would be immediately eligible to apply for an H-5B visa,

...it would be conservative to estimate that a half million other criminal aliens would be ineligible for a H-5B visa because of crimes they have committed. However, the rigid confidentiality provisions and weak documentation standards carried over from the SAW program would, as in the 1986 amnesty, make it difficult to detect ineligible criminal applicants...

...With their new green cards, adjustment-phase beneficiaries would be able to begin sponsoring members of their extended families for immigrant visas. S.1033 Title VI provides for a very large increase in the numbers and kinds of derivative relatives of illegal aliens eligible to enter the U.S. as immigrants... the definition of immediate relatives, who are exempt from any visa limits, is expanded to include the children of children (i.e. grandchildren), children of spouses (i.e., step-children), and children of parents (i.e., siblings) of U.S. citizens.

...It is important to remember that these shockingly large numbers of amnestied aliens and additional immigrants do not include the additional 400,000 H-5A "Essential Worker" visas in a new guest worker program that would be authorized by S.1033 Title III.
It goes on. And on. And on.

What would be helpful here is a list of all the endorsers of Kennedy-McCain, the better to discredit them with.

UPDATE: I added the HTML link to the report.

Immigration2005b · Mon, 11/14/2005 - 11:48 · Importance: 1

Wed, 11/16/2005 - 06:28
D Flinchum

"I recall a few years ago reading an estimate that amnestying -- giving green cards to -- just the Mexican nationals here illegally at that time could potentially result in an influx of an additional 30 million Mexicans via the family reunification provisions of current immigration law." eh

And if you think false documents are easy to come by now, imagine how easy it will be to manufacture fake third-world birth certificates showing that anybody you want to name is your "brother".

Tue, 11/15/2005 - 07:49
eh

"in detail"

And this is exactly the kind of information the (largely irresponsible and/or biased) mainstream media does not put out. I recall a few years ago reading an estimate that amnestying -- giving green cards to -- just the Mexican nationals here illegally at that time could potentially result in an influx of an additional 30 million Mexicans via the family reunification provisions of current immigration law. And you can bet there would be calls aplenty to liberalize those laws in order to speed things up (e.g. for categories covered by quotas).

Tue, 11/15/2005 - 05:34
D Flinchum

"Those 36.5 million "new" residents are already here paying taxes (under bogus ss#'s). So what if we make it official?" aeh707

Not the case at all. Most of these are "family" members that the newly legalized can bring in regardless of their ability to make a contribution to the US. As legal residents, these family members may then start their own chain migration networks. Part of the FAIR document is above but it is really worth a few minutes of your time to read it in detail. Since the US has to provide a free public education for all children in the US, what will this do to our already sinking school system?

From the FAIR document: "In addition to these massive increases in immigrant numbers, limitations on the entry of aliens would be rolled back, by allowing persons to become immigrant sponsors who were previously ineligible because they, themselves, had poverty-level incomes."

IF THE "SPONSOR" IS HIMSELF IMPROVERISHED, WHO DO YOU THINK WILL ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE FAMILY MEMBERS?

From the FAIR document: "Clearly, the promise of

Tue, 11/15/2005 - 04:16
Ralph
ralphfnelson.blogspot.com

Fred's gone off the deep end.

Mon, 11/14/2005 - 22:59
Fred Dawes

I would also like to add, ^&%^%&^&**&^%$^&*(*())(*&^^%%%$^^&&..good god! what rats! what dogs what dicks..@##@#$$$#..but lets face facts its all about money and control and in the end about mass cultural corruption and total take over, but if people don't care its also ok to do what you got to do!..if the enemies of freedom understand that?..stop the coming mass waco's buy guns.

Mon, 11/14/2005 - 15:16
Fred Dawes

The 36.5 Million new tax users not tax payers!..the fact is this bill is evil as you can get, the mexican will have the power now to make it into mexico, the flags of mexico will not fly over this nation until it is totally dismantled, and after that when the welfare is gone the real race warfare will start and that is called mass genocide will start against all non mexicans! or what some call hispanics, the fact is out own people are doing this evil against us all, if our forebears came back the washington boys would be shot down like doys, but you people are not the same people of 1861 0r 1776 or 1917 or 1898 or 1941, hell most of you just don't care but you will in 20 years and may god have mercy on all of you who have done treason against this great nation that is now becoming a third world hell.

remember the people of the third world are nothing but tools being used against our freedoms.
death to the enemies of the USA. How long before the rats come for me and how long before the rats come for you?

Mon, 11/14/2005 - 14:50
aeh707

Those 36.5 million "new" residents are already here paying taxes (under bogus ss#'s). So what if we make it official?

Mon, 11/14/2005 - 12:38
prendizi

"What would be helpful here is a list of all the endorsers of Kennedy-McCain, the better to discredit them with."

From FAIR's website:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN001033:@@@P