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Waving Mexican flags on America's Independence Mall

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Independence Mall in Philadelphia - home of the Liberty Bell and of Independence Hall - was home to quite a spectacle yesterday as 1000 illegal aliens and their supporters marched against HR4437. Some of them were waving large Mexican flags. You can see a few pictures of the protest here (including the one to the right), and read a report from the local paper here.

This was part of the "Day Without an Immigrant" protest. Illegal aliens were asked to not go to their work at Philly's restaurants. An earlier article made clear that many Philly restaurants knowingly employ illegal aliens. It also contained a damning quote from the National Restaurant Association.

Realistically speaking, we only have two choices in this matter:

1. Give illegal aliens an amnesty or a "guest" worker scheme of some kind. (Or, leave things as they are). Those forces who support illegal immigration will still be out there, and they'll even have more power than before. And, they'll continue to support illegal immigration that occurs as a result of the amnesty. Expect to see more protests of this kind until illegal aliens are given almost all the rights of American citizens. Expect to see hostile foreign governments gaining more and more power inside our country and perhaps even agitating their citizens inside our country.

2. Completely oppose those forces who support illegal immigration. That includes those corrupt politicians who for one reason or another support illegal immigration.

With the second option, prices might rise. Would you rather pay a bit more at local restaurants, or would you rather have foreign citizens who are here illegally wave their flags on Independence Mall?

Immigration · Wed, 02/15/2006 - 04:53 · Importance: 1

Fri, 03/31/2006 - 14:46
Steve Nelson

In response to "don't worry"- there are plenty of us who won't go back to Europe because we're not from Europe, our ancestors have been over here since the 1600s. I don't even refer to myself as "British American" because that would simply sound ridiculous, I'm "American". A little bit of illegal immigration isn't a concern, but it's gotten way out of control. I don't know if you realize that the concern is not over citizens whose ancestors came over here legally, it's over those who are currently here illegally. My ancestors helped create the mecca that has unfortunately attracted uninvited guests who burden the rest of us with crime, higher taxes than we'd pay otherwise, and often don't carry any car insurance or a license for that matter.

Fri, 03/31/2006 - 14:27
Steve Nelson

Those in favor of illegal immigration need some better justification. Here's what they come up with so far:
1) "this nation was built on immigration"- So what, it's already built, not to mention too crowded. And we owe nothing to those not smart enough to come over here in the 1600s and 1700s.
2) "immigration made this country great"- That was over a hundred years ago, and we had different immigrants than what we get today. For further research, visit the L.A. county jail.
3) "they perform jobs no one else wants" - suggest this to someone unemployed in Ohio, but wear football gear when you do
4) "if we criminalize it, it would be too costly to incarcerate them"- yes, that's why the solution is to rent a thousand buses and enough gas to get them one mile past the border.

Fri, 03/31/2006 - 14:19
Steve Nelson

ship 'em off

Thu, 03/30/2006 - 18:54
The Sesh

Hey DONT WORRY. To answer your erratic freakout quesiton about diseases acoming from Mexico, the incidence of tuberculosis is way up in the State of Califoranice as a direct effect of illigal aliens coming over the border.

To others, excuse my typos on the earlier blog as I was typing off the cuff. I'm an excellent speller, but a poor typist.

Thu, 03/30/2006 - 18:38
The Sesh

Irish American and Loma Alta make exceleletn well thought out points. Quick first step solution on the invasion that will not hear on the Senate Floor from our failed politicians nor in the mainstream illiberal media.

Language in the bill must be written to deport all 600,000 illegal aliens that are incarcerated in the US over a period 24 months. Note, this figure is 30% of the US total and 7 times the normal native rate. Oh, but they come here just to work

Sun, 03/26/2006 - 00:58
irish american

Well, Mr. Don't Worry. I think your post speaks volumes. You can't have a simple thought without cursing and freaking out. Yes, we are all immigrants. But the difference there is that none of us are crying and whining because our home language isn't posted everywhere. We didn't come here and expect the people of this country to support us. None of us are sitting on welfare and having the checks sent out of the country to family elsewhere. We don't get, and never will get, free health care as you do. We don't commit crimes and then say 'No Hable' when we are confronted. We all assimilated and learned one common language. Not one of us has used our home country to try to gain control of the US! We also don't take for granted what this country provides for us and spit back in it's face. As for you, you seem to have utilized your tax paid education to at least learn all our expletives. Well, let me tell ya, that was worth the thousands of dollars I spent to have my kids so that your females could come and drop their offspring on our doorstep to take care of. If you don't like America, take your ass home. If you are willing to embrace our country and all it has to offer while respecting our laws and language, then I say 'Welcome'. But personally, you just plain sound like one of the people that are here to financially rape our country blind and have no conscience about it. I think between you and the rest of us, the feelings mutual. Don't wave your flag too much. If our government doesn't do something about you, the rest of us will.

Sun, 03/26/2006 - 00:58
irish american

Well, Mr. Don't Worry. I think your post speaks volumes. You can't have a simple thought without cursing and freaking out. Yes, we are all immigrants. But the difference there is that none of us are crying and whining because our home language isn't posted everywhere. We didn't come here and expect the people of this country to support us. None of us are sitting on welfare and having the checks sent out of the country to family elsewhere. We don't get, and never will get, free health care as you do. We don't commit crimes and then say 'No Hable' when we are confronted. We all assimilated and learned one common language. Not one of us has used our home country to try to gain control of the US! We also don't take for granted what this country provides for us and spit back in it's face. As for you, you seem to have utilized your tax paid education to at least learn all our expletives. Well, let me tell ya, that was worth the thousands of dollars I spent to have my kids so that your females could come and drop their offspring on our doorstep to take care of. If you don't like America, take your ass home. If you are willing to embrace our country and all it has to offer while respecting our laws and language, then I say 'Welcome'. But personally, you just plain sound like one of the people that are here to financially rape our country blind and have no conscience about it. I think between you and the rest of us, the feelings mutual. Don't wave your flag too much. If our government doesn't do something about you, the rest of us will.

Tue, 02/28/2006 - 11:42
DONT WORRY

ALL YOU PEOPLE ON THIS WEBPAGE ARE IDIOTS. YOU PEOPLE DONT KNOW JACK SHIT. I BET YOU 90% OF YOU FUCKERS ARE SOME ARE FUCKING LOWLIVES. DON'T YOU KNOW THAT AMERICA IS MADE OUT OF IMMIGRANTS! WHY DON'T ALL THE FREAKIN IRISH, POLISH, RUSSIAN, ITALIANS, EUROPEANS,ETC, GO BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY TOO? WHY DON'T WE JUST GIVE IT BACK TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS SINCE THEY WERE HERE FIRST. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THAT MAKES U PROUD TO TALK SHIT ABOUT ANY PERSON THAT COMES FROM MEXICO, GUATEMALA, ECUADOR, SALVADOR, COLOMBIA, AND ETC. WELL IF YOU DONT LIKE MEXICANS TOO FUCKING BAD. BECAUSE IM NOT GOING ANYWHERE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT I HOPE THEY DON'T PASS THAT LAW. BECAUSE IF YOU FUCKERS DIDN'T KNOW, IMMIGRANTS HAVE TO PAY TAXES NO MATTER WHAT EVEN IF THEY MAKE A SHITLESS 3 DOLLARS PER HOUR. SO IS NOT LIKE THEY ARE LIVING FOR FREE. SO DON'T COMPLAIN THAT THEY COME AND USE AL OF THE RESOURCES SUCH AS MEDICAL CARD AND BLAH BLAH. I HOP ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT DISLIKE MEXICANS OR ANYOTHER RACE BESIDES THE ONE THAT YOU ARE, I HOPE YOU HAVE DREAMS WITH ALL THESE OTHER FLAGS. AS FOR THE DISEASES DONT JUST SAY MEXICANS HAVE IT ONLY BECAUSE EVERYONE IN THIS DAMN COUNTRY REGARDLESS OF RACE, ETHINICITY, OR CULTURE. EVERYONE HAS GOTTEN SICK OF SOMETHING. AND PLEASE BE SPECIFIC OF WHAT DISEASES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THERE'S AT LEAST TONS OF THEM. P.S I HOPE YOU SEE MORE MEXICAN WAVING A FLAG IN YOUR FACE =) I LOVE IT, LOVE IT..N FUCK THIS STUPID WEBPAGE.

Tue, 02/21/2006 - 13:44
wolf

Many Mexicans feel the southern US is Mexico...thus the attitude of not caring to be a US citizen..and..with "civil rights groups" like "The Race"..in their corner..expect to see many more Mexican flags in a neighborhood near you

wolf

Thu, 02/16/2006 - 22:41
DG

If they like to wave the Mexican flag why don't they stay home in Mexico and wave it? I get tried of seeing it all around here. They are only coming up here to make more money. They still want to be Mexican but live up here. They don't seem to feel loyal to U.S. but seemed tied to Mexico. And this administration doesn't seem to see this as a problem.

Thu, 02/16/2006 - 14:26
LomaAlta
linknzona.blogspot.com

Hey, I do like Mexicans but not Mexican food.
Worked (legally) in Mexico for a few years and
enjoyed it and the people.

Just dont like illegal aliens and all the problems they bring, and, it doesnt matter if they are Mexican, Canadian, Chinese, ... if not legal, they don't belong here. And, in my personal opinion, we need the "melting pot" approach so that all legal immigrants become assimilated and Americans if they want to live in America permanently.

Wed, 02/15/2006 - 15:14
boofugg

Restaurants, yeah! Hooray for Mexican food!

One of the great mysteries of life:

Why does everybody like Mexican food, but nobody likes Mexicans?

Viva rice and beans!

Death to Mejico!

Wed, 02/15/2006 - 09:59
D Flinchum

And please let's not forget the added "bonus" of the fact that illegal immigrants are not screened for contageous diseases. Remember we're talking about eating establishments here, are we not?

Wed, 02/15/2006 - 07:48
LomaAlta
linknzona.blogspot.com

Lonewacko Said: "With the second option, prices might rise. Would you rather pay a bit more at local restaurants, or would you rather have foreign citizens who are here illegally wave their flags on Independence Mall?"

Yes, some prices may rise, but these would be dwarfed in savings from the free healthcare, free education, & wellfare expenses, and revenues recovered from cheating on taxes, etc. Also, illegal aliens are the largest single group in our federal prisons. Imagine the costs there: from original victims, to lawers/courts, to prison. And, illegal aliens send about $50 billion home to Mexico each year. With the usual economic multiplier of 3, this means a $150 billion annual loss to the USA economy in addition to the costs mentioned above.

So yes, there may be increased costs to USA businesses doing business legally but the taxpayers will save hundreds of billions of dollars annually. And, eliminating illegal employment would open these jobs to the working poor, former union members, working students, and others now frozen out.

Finally, as long as we allow millions of illegal aliens here the corrupt narco-government of Mexico does not have to be responsible and take care of its own people. Mexican poor people will suffer more and more until there is reform in Mexico. The USA is on the wrong side of this issue: propping up narco-politicians at the expense of Mexico's poor shouldn't seem right to anyone.

Wed, 02/15/2006 - 05:46
eh

From the newspaper story (written by "Gaiutra Bahadur", BTW) link:

["H.R. 4437 shows how much racism is alive and well," said Angel Cordero, of the Latino Leadership Alliance of New Jersey. "Has America lost its mind?"]

Uhh, yeah, OK, "racism". I guess someone from the "Latino Leadership Alliance of New Jersey" ought to know about that.

No quote from one of the Minutemen "vigilantes" who were apparently there -- not enuf space I guess.

You know, opposing 4437 is one thing, but you gotta be pretty friggin' stupid to organize such a rally and then let a lot of Mexican flag-waving go on.